I want to try one of them just for random internet browsing. which one do i pick?

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    4 years ago

    OperaVPN: a sick practical joke

    ProtonVPN is good enough if you just want to mask your IP for basic browsing stuff, but if your threat level is even slightly above the most basic needs none of those two are good enough.

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      4 years ago

      so for shitposting on 4chan protonvpn is good enough

      • Bilb!
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        4 years ago

        You might discover that most of the protonvpn endpoints are banned from 4chan already. I don’t know, I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised.

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      4 years ago

      There are a handful of cases where a VPN might be a better choice than Tor for certain traffic. Such as using bit torrent or keeping traffic off of Tor exit nodes as they are monitored more heavily.

      It’s also useful to have a home network VPN for local services, but I don’t think that is what OP is needing.

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        Tor is like a VPN but sends your traffic through multiple servers (so that no single server has all the information). The Tor Browser also has great tracking protection: it makes it very difficult for websites to distinguish you from other Tor Browser users and makes you look different everytime you restart the Browser.

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            I am not sure but i can imagine the following reasons:

            • You do not want anyone (like your ISP) to know that you use tor (to avoid being flagged as suspicious). They will only see that you use a VPN.
            • Tor is blocked but the VPN not
            • You do not want the Tor entrance node (the first server in the chain) to see you IP (The entry node only knows your IP, the middle nodes knows nothing (only forwards encrypted traffic from one Tor node to another) and the exit node only knows what websites someone is connecting to but has no idea who that is)
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    4 years ago

    I use mullvad, not because i expect 100% privacy (pretty sure it’s in 5 eye country too), but because i trust them to handle it slightly better than my ISP at least.

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    4 years ago

    If you expect privacy then none of the above.

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    proton is located on 5 eye country also it doesnt have no log so you dont give your data to your isp but you give your data to proton servers so really none of the 2

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        4 years ago

        do you trust proton your data ? i believe he is talking on the free version, so yes 5 eye country servers

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    4 years ago

    A lot of anecdotes in the comments with no sources. look it up yourself, I guess

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      4 years ago

      This is the first thing ive heard bad about proton. You have a link to any of the shady stuff youre reffering to? They are all open source iirc, that alone makes them the best out there imo.

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        4 years ago

        I also want to know but everything that Mullvad does is also libre. They are very supporting of the Hong Kong bullshit, which is meh but they’re not a company after all.

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    4 years ago

    I seriously didn’t have a reason to use these vpn instead of using any public openvpn server.