I want to try one of them just for random internet browsing. which one do i pick?
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OperaVPN: a sick practical joke
ProtonVPN is good enough if you just want to mask your IP for basic browsing stuff, but if your threat level is even slightly above the most basic needs none of those two are good enough.
so for shitposting on 4chan protonvpn is good enough
You might discover that most of the protonvpn endpoints are banned from 4chan already. I don’t know, I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised.
so what do you suggest
Specifically for dodging 4chan bans or what?
nah just for posting
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There are a handful of cases where a VPN might be a better choice than Tor for certain traffic. Such as using bit torrent or keeping traffic off of Tor exit nodes as they are monitored more heavily.
It’s also useful to have a home network VPN for local services, but I don’t think that is what OP is needing.
doesn’t tor do just ip spoofing?
Tor is like a VPN but sends your traffic through multiple servers (so that no single server has all the information). The Tor Browser also has great tracking protection: it makes it very difficult for websites to distinguish you from other Tor Browser users and makes you look different everytime you restart the Browser.
and why do people use both?
I am not sure but i can imagine the following reasons:
- You do not want anyone (like your ISP) to know that you use tor (to avoid being flagged as suspicious). They will only see that you use a VPN.
- Tor is blocked but the VPN not
- You do not want the Tor entrance node (the first server in the chain) to see you IP (The entry node only knows your IP, the middle nodes knows nothing (only forwards encrypted traffic from one Tor node to another) and the exit node only knows what websites someone is connecting to but has no idea who that is)
I use mullvad, not because i expect 100% privacy (pretty sure it’s in 5 eye country too), but because i trust them to handle it slightly better than my ISP at least.
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If you expect privacy then none of the above.
Any suggestion?
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I recommend AirVPN
proton is located on 5 eye country also it doesnt have no log so you dont give your data to your isp but you give your data to proton servers so really none of the 2
protonvpn is run by a swiss company so it’s not in the 5 eyes group
do you trust proton your data ? i believe he is talking on the free version, so yes 5 eye country servers
any suggestions then?
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use proxy sockets5
A lot of anecdotes in the comments with no sources. look it up yourself, I guess
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This is the first thing ive heard bad about proton. You have a link to any of the shady stuff youre reffering to? They are all open source iirc, that alone makes them the best out there imo.
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I also want to know but everything that Mullvad does is also libre. They are very supporting of the Hong Kong bullshit, which is meh but they’re not a company after all.
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I seriously didn’t have a reason to use these vpn instead of using any public openvpn server.
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Chinese does not automatically mean bad. By your logic, 14 Eyes VPNs should be order of magnitudes worse since you are implying berating Chinese VPNs for China’s track record on privacy, which while true, holds much more for 14 Eyes and affiliate nations.
By that logic you can berate Mullvad VPN from Sweden, part of 14 Eyes (not 9 or 5) as well.
In all, dumb logic. Use technical merits. We all know China is not a bastion of privacy, does not mean 14 Eyes is better in any way.
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OperaVPN is a botnet proxy, but it is no worse than the VPN addons like Browsec or any free commercial Western VPN apps.
Based. I’d rather my data be used by China than my own government or, god forbid, Amerika.
