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Today marks my first day on lemmy after leaving Reddit after 3 years, I already like the platform I just wish their was a mobile app, and wish the mobile web support was a bit more polished but i understand it’s still in it’s earlier stages

@iszomer
113d

I deleted an account of 10 years recently and I have no regrets.

I left Reddit shortly after the recent ban-wave and after they started banning people for simply upvoting wrongthink.

@Quadle4
-13M

The votes aren’t private? Probaly without any encryption, but private.

Admins and mods can see your up and downvotes.

@Quadle4
03M

This is very awful. So the reports are not private too? Lemmy works is the same way?

I as the creator of a community cannot see who voted, but I imagine that information is available to the Lemmy instance administrators if they wish to go out of their way to inspect their database, and I don’t think encrypting votes would prevent that because the instance administrators would still be able to decrypt it because they’d have the keys

l left reddit too, but didn’t remove my account. i felt like escaping from north korea.

@anonaddy29
creator
23M

I deleted account and deleted all posts/overrided comments

i am not sure they did delete transaction of their db, probably 100% have copy record, or only set boolean column ‘user_deleted’ to ‘true’.

Ephera
23M

Yeah, but they supposedly don’t keep the edit history of posts/comments, so if you use a script to edit each one and replace the text with some placeholder text, that should be safe theoretically.

@anonaddy29
creator
13M

Yeah reddit nuke seems to work well

@anonaddy29
creator
13M

Yeah idk I just use Reddit nuke extension then changed my email a couple of times etc. then I pressed delete account

@k_o_t
63M

unfortunately can’t leave reddit yet, as so much community/content is already concentrated there

but hey, it doesn’t have to be an instant change…

@anonaddy29
creator
53M

It’s a hard switch but it takes pioneers to bring the masses

@Quadle4
03M

I left my favorite sub, my bugs sub and my birds sub. I’ll miss them.

@jsgohac
43M

Nice move.

I’m curious, what mobile web improvements would you recommend? I have been using it for a while and I have noticed it sometimes does not show you as logged in after submitting the form, and buttons do not always register my action (eg votes). Otherwise, pretty impressed on the consistency across desktop and mobile.

@anonaddy29
creator
43M

Fixing those icons for starters and yes sometimes it shows you not logged in

@jsgohac
33M

Good idea. There seems to be a similar open issue on github: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/601

but it would be good to feed it back up one way or another.

Ephera
43M

I still read on Reddit every now and then without an account, but with the US elections coming up, I think I’ll quit that, too. The amount of propaganda and political bullshit posted in the months ahead of that, is just absolutely astounding.

Seems they’re already starting to push the agenda that people should not vote for either Trump nor Biden, so that the brainwashed fucknuts who will vote for Trump no matter what, will win the election.

Yeah, better avoid political subs on reddit (and on social media in general). There are still some interesting subs, mainly the ones that have a strong focus on something not really political like linux distros, programming languages, novels etc… Beside the occasional troll, you can often have very interesting discussion and learn stuff.

r/all is to be avoided if you want to stay sane.

Ephera
23M

Yeah, thing is Linux and programming discussions, I can have on here and on Mastodon. I mostly come to Reddit for less intellectual content, so especially without an account, /r/all is unfortunately the only real entrypoint.

I try to filter out the subreddits that I truly don’t care for (sports, certain games, movies, series etc.) or that are racist, sexist, glorifying violence, insulting people etc…

Which are 194 subreddits right now. I do have to say that I was appalled, how much hateful content is just par of the course (presumably because they banned those 7000 hate subreddits).
Like, why is there a fairly popular subreddit called /r/FightPorn? Why does /r/HoldMyCosmo frequently show women seriously injuring themselves? Just what kind of sociopaths find this content entertaining?

@Bloodaxe
43M

Not sure what platform you’re on, but Lemme on the PlayStore (android) is a client made by another user on here. Welcome to the community! 😁👍🏻

@anonaddy29
creator
23M

Need one for iOS

kvuj
25d

deleted by creator

Ephera
23M

I don’t know what the current state is, but when the dev introduced it on here, they said, they still wanted to release the source code and get it on F-Droid.

@Quadle4
13M

I did it today after two years.

@mishuri
23M

I hate to break the circlejerk but Reddit is still better than Lemmy in many ways, often Lemmy is a disappointing step backwards. Reddit is:

  • Better UX and web-design. The content looks much nicer and more pleasant to read and follow.
  • JS free.
  • Great mobile support. I’m using Boost and it’s brilliant browsing experience.
  • Indexable, means you can use search engine to search reddit rather than rely and hope sites search is working.
  • Bigger communities, you can find subreddit for almost every niche.
  • Better media support.
  • Porn, reddit is brilliant for exploring pornographic fetishes and I hope there’s a pornographic lemmy instance in the future.
  • Weirdly enough Reddit feels more free sometimes.
  • Huge enhancement community ranging from greasemonkey scripts to whole addon suites (e.g. RES)

The only negatives are:

  • Mainstream reddit propaganda and astroturfing, however if you avoid major subreddits and stick to niche forums as it was intended with the platform you’ll be fine.
  • Draconic administration that bans a bunch of perfectly fine subreddits, though this isntance of lemmy isn’t much better.
  • Hides down-voted comments and secret modlog (though there are 3rd party open modlogs out there).
  • 6 month archive kills a lot of long-term threads.
@yogthos
93M

I find the new Reddit redesign to be strictly worse, and it’s also Js heavy. I expect that eventually they’ll get rid of the original design since it’s a maintenance cost. I also find the way Reddit handles media is pretty annoying. It makes it difficult to download it for one. It’s also not possible to put media in comments.

@mishuri
63M

I expect that eventually they’ll get rid of the original design since it’s a maintenance cost

Good, just wait for lemmy’s federation support and then they’ll be signing their own gravestone 😆
People have been itching to leave reddit since redesign now.

@yogthos
43M

Yeah, once the old UI goes away I can’t see myself using Reddit. I do think Lemmy is a natural alternative since it has a very similar UX to the old Reddit. I’m pretty excited about federation as well, looks like it’s pretty far along at this point.

Ephera
23M

I mean, the redesign does work better on mobile. Except that it constantly tries to get you to use their app. And they’ve been doing bullshit, like not letting you view random subreddits without logging in.

Reddit has said that they plan on continuing to provide the old design, take that how you will. However, they did point out that really old clients like i.reddit.com and the old alien blue app still work even if it’s not being developed any more.

@yogthos
13M

It’ll likely depend on the ratio of the users that go to the old style compared to the cost of maintenance.

Why is why I mentioned alien blue and i.reddit.com. They’re both really old at this point and I doubt a lot of people use them, but they can at least still access the site. To their creddit (ba dum tss), Reddit does seem to have a lot of backwards compatibility. I have also never heard of an old third party Reddit client suddenly breaking because Reddit changed their API, like is a problem with YouTube for example.

@yogthos
13M

Yeah, I use Slide and it works pretty well. I do agree that Reddit actually has a pretty decent API that’s stayed stable over the years.

@anonaddy29
creator
83M

gotta understand lemmy is still a beta, and has a lot of potential moving forward. Although you are right about reddit having a better UX and web-design, but subs come with users, the more users the subs. Adoption only happens with pioneers. But one field lemmy does do good is privacy as it’s decentralized and soon to be connected to fediverse

@ketchup
23M

Adoption only happens with pioneers

Well said!
Personally I think lemmy managed quite well to keep their politics under soft-wraps so to speak. The “empire” conspiracies rarely end up on front-page. I think of all reddit clones Lemmy has the best chance and it’s nice to see it unfold!

I hope the maintainers find the strength to continue with this and launch federation soon — that’ll be huge for the platform. I really liked Prismo but it never managed to launch federation support, hopefully Lemmy managed to cross this step.

Regarding UX I already wrote few greasemonkey improvements that make it a much better experience. I see few issues on github already but it seems to be low priority so maybe I should make my scripts sharable with other users 🤔

@anonaddy29
creator
23M

yeah i’m really hoping to see lemmy succeed to, it’s always hard for early starting projects cause a big deal breaker is funding. And you can’t get funding if their is no user base. The best way to get user base is through influencers though get 1 influencer on the platform the rest follow like sheep

@jsgohac
33M

what kind of funding do you mean? I hope this remains true for the life of lemmy:

Lemmy is free, open-source software, with no advertising, monetizing, or venture capital, ever.

also, do we really want influencers and sheep?

@anonaddy29
creator
23M

Funding to keep the project alive, everything costs money. And yes influencers bring people and people talk to people and so on.

@ajz
33M

Lemmy has funding : https://lemmy.ml/post/35293

@jsgohac
23M

The tildes model (though invite only) seems appealing … here is a breakdown of their costs and donations:

https://tildes.net/financials

and on tildes potential lack of funding

What if you don’t get enough donations to run the site full-time?

One of the best parts about avoiding venture capital and other forms of investment is that there’s no pressure. Tildes doesn’t have to reach certain thresholds of traffic or revenue to prevent shutting down. The worst case is just that I end up running Tildes as a side project, and hope that it eventually grows to a point where it’s sustainable to work on full-time.

granted, one main goal for lemmy is federation so approaches may vary, but in any event an influencers sheeple eyeballs revenue VC model is not the only one

@stevo
13M

Yes plz share those scripts! - I think lemmy users are willing to tolerate the rough edges because they see something that could be viable long term. I think we have all witnessed really silly censorship that has been going on at reddit, but also the pros when it comes to removing racist & extremist content. I think federation is the right way to go because it means you dont have to take an absolute side but the community can find its happy medium.

@k_o_t
33M

Better UX and web-design. The content looks much nicer and more pleasant to read and follow.

JS free.

wut?

@PureTryOut
23M

It’s a subjective thing, but I do agree with them that JS free makes for a better experience. I can definitely understand people not agreeing with it though.

I think he’s talking about the reddit redesign, which relies heavlily on JS.

@PureTryOut
13M

It sounds like he is saying you can’t be JS free and have a better UX though 🤔

Ephera
13M

I like, how we struggle to communicate what Reddit even is, because a number of people seem to have just completely repressed the existence of the redesign.

@mishuri
13M

old.reddit which is still perfectly functional has better UX and is JS free.

technology is nothing, important is mind.

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