No, you’re absolutely right, there is absolutely no precedent for these kinds of smear campaigns in the west.

Ah yes, because it’s inconceivable that western media would lie about China. 🤣

I’d argue that we don’t fully understand how AI systems work either. There are a lot of emergent behaviours that fall out of relatively simple rules. And yeah, I find that ML and AI are used interchangeably nowadays. For what it’s worth, I prefer calling this ML as well as it’s a more precise term.

I enjoyed it, and yeah it’s a similar premise.

I see somebody doesn’t know the difference between facts and opinions.

I mean we could say the same about human intellect

There are plenty of other indicators showing that wages are generally inadequate. 64% of the people are just making their ends meet without being able to make any savings. These are slave wages where people are paid just enough to keep them working. Meanwhile, average person is up to over 100k in debt. These are not signs of a healthy and functioning economy.

Specifically, the financial capitalists who run the country did that. US is a democracy for the capital owning class and a dictatorship of capitalists over the working class majority.

I mean it was the first ever attempt at creating a worker state, so not really surprising that it wasn’t perfect. Furthermore, USSR was under duress from the imperialist west throughout the entirety of its existence. It was invaded right after formation in 1918, then it was plunged into WW2 that caused unimaginable destruction, and then US started the Cold War right after that. The fact that the country was under siege throughout its existence obviously had a huge impact on how it developed. We’ve also seen what happened to more liberalized societies like Chile that didn’t become militant. The government was quickly overthrown by counterrevolutionaries. In fact, Gorbachev’s liberalization reforms were ultimately what allowed counterrevolution to take place in USSR. I think that’s important context to keep in mind.

If USSR was allowed to develop peacefully, I think it could’ve turned out very differently from the way it did. If all the resources could’ve been devoted towards the socialist cause of improving lives of the people, and if there was no threat of counter revolution then it would’ve been a much more open society.

I agree that Yugoslavia managed to find a better model, and Goulash Communism approach Hungary used was another good example.

Again, to be clear here, I’m not advocating remaking USSR as it was. Clearly the model failed in the end, and it’s important to study it to understand how to create a better system that’s more stable and more egalitarian.

I do like the ideas behind Venus project, I think the big question that remains is how people wrestle power away from the oligarchs in order to put the means of production to start building things the Venus project talks about. We need a systemic change in the structure of the economy, and people who benefit from the current system aren’t just going to let go of their power and privilege without a fight.

the least racist westerner has logged on

Nobody is arguing that it can’t be done better than USSR, but pretending that USSR did nothing right is not productive either. It has problems, and a lot of things could’ve been done better, it also vastly improved conditions from what things were like before USSR, and quality of life declined dramatically for vast majority of people after it collapsed. Just go look at what happened in southern republics like Armenia or Tajikistan. Nobody in Europe ever talks about that.

USSR was also able to do things like eliminate homelessness, illiteracy, provide everyone with food and housing. These are basic things that western regimes aren’t able to do today.

Finally, transition to capitalism was also one of the greatest humanitarian disasters in history causing around 7 million excess deaths. I’m all for learning from the mistakes of USSR and trying to do better going forward, but let’s not pretend there were no positive aspects to USSR either.

Yeah, that’s some really exciting tech.

Employment rates are completely meaningless when jobs don’t pay a living wage. 37% of Americans have two full time jobs now.

I grew up in USSR, and I can tell you that thinking it was run as a dictatorship is incredibly ignorant. Please spend some time to actually educate yourself about USSR before providing opinions on it.

At least USSR had women’s rights to complain about.

Yeah, that’s precisely why the whole get a better job argument is a fallacy.

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nothing in particular, just sharing good memes

Same problem in Canada, it’s a silent pandemic that everybody pretends isn’t happening.

There is nothing racist about calling out white chauvinists doing chauvinism. You must be one of those blue lives matter people.

indeed

oh good point, updated the link to point to the actual study

Assisted deaths are fine as long as there is a good social safety net available. In lieu of one this just becomes eugenics.

I think that’s a pretty safe assumption.

Probably just poor tuning, but in general it’s pretty hard to guarantee that the model won’t do something unexpected. Hence why it’s a terrible idea to use LLMs for something like this.

A few other studies show some more crazy things covid can do.

• “Evidence for biological age acceleration and telomere shortening in COVID-19 survivors”
• “In addition to induce DNA damage, SARS-CoV-2 inhibits its repair”
• “SARS-CoV-2, the virus causing COVID-19, can alter genome structure of our cells…This particular finding is quite unique and has not been seen in other coronaviruses before.”
• “Direct research on the hearts of COVID-19 patients who have died from the disease has revealed they sustained DNA damage in a way completely unlike how influenza affects the body.”
• Our cell’s genes are rewired in MILD COVID.

Wonder what other wonderful things we’re going to discover about covid in the near future.

The Russiagate https://jacobin.com/2020/04/russiagate-christopher-steele-dossier-trump-election

edit: all the people being mad and downvoting just goes to underscore that once people internalize nonsense, no amount of evidence will change their minds

The fact that you fail to see the racism and orientalism in this thread is precisely the problem. The narrative about human rights violations by the CPC comes directly from US propaganda outlets, and has been debunked in detail repeatedly. Yet, racist westerners continue to regurgitate it because it fits perfectly with their chauvinistic world view. American media doesn’t just portray eastern countries harshly, it lies shamelessly about them.

The only thing alarming thing here is the sheer amount of racism and orientalism spewing out of beehaw in this thread.

It’s quite plausible, the fact that it never really clears from the system is pretty concerning.

Yeah, first past the post makes it pretty much impossible for any smaller parties to participate.

Sure, any progressive people end up in the dem party, but the amount of influence they have appears to be minimal. End result is that we see a ratcheting effect where the repubs ram through really unpopular policies, while dems prevent any progress to the left. The system overall continues to shift into neofeudal fascism. The only way out of this is to build worker power through on the ground organization, unionization, and then political participation in form of strikes and protests. That’s how workers won their rights in the 1930s where mass worker unrest forced the government to pass the New Deal.

that’s what I’m expecting as well

I do agree that ignorance and bigotry amongst the poor contribute to right wing voting, but it’s also worth noting that this is ultimately cultivated by the right wing media. Oligarch owned channels pump out slick content that promotes views that are favorable to the rich. And of course, when it comes to the economic policy the difference between democrats and republicans is minimal. So, no matter which party is in charge, lives continue to get worse for the majority.

Nah, it’s t he American gentry that’s the core support for the GOP https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/trump-american-gentry-wyman-elites/620151/

UK is quickly turning into a failed state.

We have plenty of video evidence of this happening in Ukraine, but whatever you say my little dronie. And yeah, opinion polls mean so much in a country that’s now effectively a military dictatorship.

I have to ask, do you hold the same quarrel over these events? https://archive.ph/BAxYc

All kinds of conspiracy theories like this that people end up believing https://jacobin.com/2023/01/hillary-clinton-russian-bots-2016-presidential-election-trump

Yup, US has been running around and trying to get all its vassals to stop selling chips to China.