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I strongly disagree. What matters is living by our ideals everyday and if that means death, so be it.

Then you’re not proposing a viable change that can meaningfully improve society. A communist society like USSR does an objectively better job of improving the lives of the people than a capitalist one. I’ll take that any day over what we have today in the western world. It doesn’t matter how much better anarchism might be ideologically if it’s not able to change society practically.

A conqueror’s mindset who wants to impose their worldview on everyone else in the name of socialism, is the worst enemy of actual socialism.

Once again, you assume that the majority of people agree with your mindset. Not everybody wants what you want, and not everybody wants to structure society the way you do. This is why I keep explaining to you that there is a competition of ideologies. If your ideology is viable then it has to be able to compete with others that propose different solutions. Whether you personally like those solutions or not is entirely besides the point.

The Amish only exist in the USA to my knowledge, and enjoy a certain exceptional privilege of cultural exception there from my understanding. I’ve never heard of Amish sovereign lands being threatened by huge corporations supported by the USA armed forces, as is often the case with indigenous nations.

The Amish exist within the capitalist state, and my point is that people who don’t wish to resist capitalism wholesale are free to do what the Amish do. However, when it comes to resisting US armed forces, then ML approach is the one that works consistently and gets results.

Lords were not everywhere ; there were free communes as well.

You were originally romanticizing feudalism, but now you’re just talking about the fact that there was more unclaimed land previously.

Sure. Any group of people consists of the people.


I don’t speak out of personal experience because i was born and raised in France

Well, I speak from personal experience because I was born and raised in USSR. Saying that people who left USSR weren’t happy with it is a tautology.

There very much was communism in USSR. The means of production were publicly owned and directed towards the benefit of the majority. This is a simple fact. Nobody was exploiting people to accumulate personal capital in USSR. The work was done for the benefit of all. Calling USSR a dictatorship also shows an incredible amount of ignorance regarding how politics worked there. Last I checked people from regular working class don’t rise to lead the country in dictatorships.

What false equivalence?

The false equivalence is your claim that people were equally oppressed in USSR the way they are in capitalist societies. This is the height of absurdity.

I will fight for freedom and equality until the end.

So will other people using different approaches from your own, and you somehow have to find a way to live with that.

A slur as in an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo.

There is and there was. That most anarchist communes have been eradicated by authoritarians of all stripes doesn’t mean they weren’t successful.

That’s literally what it means, they failed to hold their own against other ideologies. This goes back to my point that all ideologies are competing for mindshare. It doesn’t matter how amazing these communities are if they’re unable to defend themselves from external threats effectively.

I’m not idealizing the middle ages, there were a lot of problems. But free communes and peasant uprisings were a thing back then. Can we say the same today in the western world?

The Amish exist in the western world, but most people are choosing not to live that way.

My point was simply that back then, people could technically evade feudalism by fleeing from the centers of power. While evading capitalism today is mostly impossible (or please show me how).

Not really how it worked I’m afraid. Lords demanded tributes from villages on their lands, and those who failed to produce it would suffer severe consequences. People of course could run to live in the woods, but they can do that today exactly the same way.

What really sets zapatism apart from other marxist revolutions, is that the armed branch of the revolution (EZLN) explicitly recognizes they are not representative of the people and the people should decide for themselves.

The armed branch in Marxist revolutions also consists of the people, there is a reason it’s called a proletarian revolution.

And killed/enslaved millions of others. “Liberation” is not how people in the USSR/Spain/China experienced it:

I grew up in USSR, and that’s exactly how we experienced it. You speak out of sheer ignorance here if you think that the people of USSR and China were not liberated by their revolutions.

Whether i’m placed in a concentration camp by the capital’s police or the people’s police makes no difference to me.

As somebody who actually lived in a Marxist-Leninist state, I can tell you that you’re just making a false equivalence here.

Just the same way anarkiddie is a term for describing infantile understanding of political theory and an umbrella term for critiquing utopian ideology.

Another big problem with Signal is the fact that it’s centralized with the server being located in US. Even if the protocol itself is secure with the server not having access user data, this presents a huge risk since US government can simply force Signal to shut down the service at any time. The server can also potentially collect metadata about the users providing US security agencies with user connection graphs.

I think that Matrix approach is much more sound, and would always recommend it over Signal.

As somebody who had to live through the collapse of USSR all I can say is fuck that guy.

Key is to turn it into a habit. Start by finding a consistent time when you read. For example, in the evening. You can start with making it a at least half an hour and read as long as you can. Eventually you’ll be reading longer.

Another important aspect is to find stories you enjoy reading. The writing style of the author makes a huge difference. If you’re reading a book and it feels like a chore, switch to a different book.

Short stories are a good way to get into reading since you get a feeling of accomplishment finishing them, and you can feel progress quickly. Pump 6 and other stories and Exhalation are good anthologies I can recommend.

That would be great for the fediverse since it’s already managed to find a sustainable model with a combination of volunteer run services and crowd funding. If commercial media suddenly got paywalled that would drive more people towards non commercial alternatives.

Lately I’ve seen it used largely as a pejorative term for Marxist-Leninists or people who defend existing socialist states. I personally see it nothing more than an ad hominem attack. If somebody disagrees with a position another person has then they can articulate what it is they disagree with.

Again, you can constructively debate specific points you disagree with. What specifically do you define as tankism?


Calling somebody a tankie is a slur. So feel free to criticize people’s positions and debate them, but if you’re going to use pejorative terms for people who don’t see things the same way you do then this forum might not be for you.

Yeah, the model has proven itself to be more resilient than a lot of people anticipated. I think the current recession might play a factor though. Since businesses will have tighter margins it’s going to lead to stricter accounting and they may revisit the idea of spending money on ads the way they do now.

Well that’s very precisely what anarchism is about: a collection of mental tool and individual/collective strategies to sabotage all forms of domination.

There isn’t much demonstrated success applying this in practice however. So, it’s more of an ideal than a tool from what I can tell.

That is true. Most autonomous communes have been assimilated or exterminated over the years. Contrary to popular belief, the middle ages were a rather free time for those people who lived far away from the centers of power. Nowadays, nobody can escape State control.

I think you’re conflating things here. People in the middle ages did have more free time, but they were still very much under state control. You had lords and kings who owned the land as well as the people on it. Feudalism wasn’t any closer to anarchism than capitalism. The loss of free time largely stems from how those in power applied new technology to extract labor in ways that weren’t previously possible.

Many people have argued in the past that in nature humans and other species tend towards anarchism (disinterested cooperation). That was the main point of Kropotkin’s Mutual aid, or David Graber’s Are you an anarchist? the answer may surprise you.

The arguments don’t appear to pan out in practice however. Nobody managed to create a stable and lasting anarchist society in the past century. Perhaps Zapatista would be the closest example, although they don’t consider themselves anarchist. Yet, even they only managed to carve out a niche for themselves within of a capitalist state. However, other approaches have demonstrated success. For example, there have been numerous successful ML revolutions that liberated millions of people across the globe.

Competing is not exactly the word. But authoritarian systems and libertarian capitalist communes tend to exterminate alternatives, so we do have to be prepared.

It is a competition between ideologies, and the current dominant ideology in the world is authoritarian capitalism. This system perpetuates itself through state control and violence. The first question that needs to be asked is how such a system can be overthrown in order for something different to be possible.

In my opinion the bigger question that needs to be answered is how you would propose preventing hierarchies from forming. This is something we’ve seen happen sooner or later in the vast majority of human societies. It can also be argued that hierarchical organization tends to outcompete one that’s non hierarchical hence why societies end up converging on hierarchies.

It seems to me that many anarchists work of an assumption that majority of people will have a similar mindset to their own and choose the anarchist approach voluntarily. However, in practice everybody doesn’t agree on any one way of doing things. This is why we have many competing ideologies that appeal to different kinds of people. Any ideology that aims to be successful has to be able to effectively compete with and hold its own against others.


loving this open source time idea :)

Right, once a proprietary service gets shut down all the work that went into it becomes worthless.

I think the Fediverse is overall quite healthy. There are millions of active users on it, and that translates into a sufficient user base needed for hosting and developing Fediverse based platforms. Many of the projects are community funded to ensure sustained development, and there is a robust ecosystem of active instances.

While growth is always nice, it’s not really a major factor in sustainability once a critical mass of users needed for sustainability is reached. This is a very different dynamic from commercial services that need to show profit and growth to their investors and shareholders.

Open source community run projects also need far less resources to stay afloat. As an example, Twitter has something like 3,000 employees while Mastodon is developed by a team of maybe a dozen people.

A lot of the complexity of Twitter such as ads, is completely incidental to the users, and some such as tracking is actively harmful. Yet, this is where majority of the effort is actually focused since user data is the real product. Mastodon can provide a better user experience with a far small development team because it doesn’t have any ulterior motives.

Open source also operates on different timescales from commercial projects. Mastodon was originally built on top of GNU Social protocol. GNU Social has been around for years in relative obscurity, yet it never died off. If GNU Social was a proprietary commercial platform then it would’ve just faded into obscurity when their money ran out.

Intellij for any big projects, VSCodium for smaller stuff, and vi for config editing, etc.

I bet that kind of thing is gonna be possible to do using machine learning as well. Take a low poly model with a texture and have it automatically create a high res model from that.