How is this good news?
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I mean if near endorsement of child abuse is not enough , yeah, please, let’s wait until he fully endorses child abuse, then we’ll get rid of him.
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It’s always accusations, not a clear-cut case.
No, there’s a tons of evidence on many episodes when he embarrassed the Free Software movement by acting poorly in public speaking events. You can find pictures, videos and descriptions of him doing weird things ranging from older comments around age of consent, annoying women with unwanted attention, walking around barefoot or poorly dressed, throwing temper tantrums and the list goes on.
This is not about judging him as a person. A spokeperson is responsible for representing a community in public. Bad publicity harms other people.
I mean, speaking as a member of said community, Free Software is punk. I don’t want a fashionable representative who only says things that everyone agrees with.
Sure, I don’t need my Free Software representative to philosophize about the age of consent, but as long as he’s not telling people to rape others, I do not have a problem with that, and again, would rather have him speak his mind than not say anything that’s pushing the boundaries.
The age of consent and the annoying of women is bad, but the rest I don’t really care, IMO I kind of like it, it is fun and I prefer that to a souless kind of CEO.
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It’s always accusations, not a clear-cut case.
With Stallman, pretending it’s not clear cut is ridiculous.
Probably the most damning one:
- In a 2007 interview, he said:
I don’t have any experience working with women in programming projects; I don’t think that any volunteered to work on Emacs or GCC.
A number of women have contributed to GCC, including:
- Janis Johnson maintains the test suite and has been a contributor since 2001
- Sandra Loosemore is the lead author of the GNU Library Reference Manual;[3] RMS is listed as her co-author.
- Dorit Nuzman made major contributions to loop scheduling and vectorization.
- Carolyn Tice is also mentioned as a contributor.
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With Stallman, pretending it’s not clear cut is ridiculous.
The “not a clear-cut case” referred to Minsky and not Stallman. What are you claiming that Stallman is obviously guilty of? Because the discussion was on his alleged endorsement of child abuse and sexual assault and you linked to articles which make accusations based on assumptions and further dilute it with describing how disgusting and asocial he is. Your highlighted point in no way supports the claim of him endorsing such behaviors and comes from an interview, in which Stallman also states that:
I know most of the maintainers only through email, which means that I don’t know whether they are male or female unless their names show me. I just looked at the list: one maintainer is probably female, and a few others have names that might be male or female.
Yes, saying that no women contributed to GCC is false and wrong but it’s not a reason to exclude him from the movement or a justification for the CancelStallman campaign.
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he defended a former colleague against allegations of child abuse.
You can’t just believe everything you read on Twitter.
The source is quite public, so it’s better to go to that source.
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For the intent of figuring out what he said, he did not say that such-and-such actions are defensible.
Rather than talking in big circles round the issue, it’s better to just look at the truth of the matter. Do you, or do you not believe that saying someone who slept with a twenty year old has committed “sexual assault” could be misleading?
Stallman poses a danger to the system not only because of his ideas about Free Software but because he still keeps alive the approach with which we have obtained all our rights: radicalism. The system to try to discredit Stallman even with fake news and to incorporate only what suits its interests under the name of “Open Source” leaving out the rest of the rights-based political movement (Free Software).
lets see how it goes this time
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I think the most important bit of that article is the response of Civil Rights Activist Nadine Strossen. I don’t know her but her credentials are listed sound believable.
Some people using the Internet might be surprised but it’s not their job to judge in a liberal society. They of course can raise their opinion in the same way as someone can raise their opinion in a pub after a few beer, and their opinion weights the same, nothing more but a chat.
For a more serious discussion certain rules and assumptions should apply in a society and these are well explained and argued in Nadines response.
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