For the moment, lemmy.ml is using an explicit allowlist for instances we federate with. If you currently run an instance, and would like to be added to join.lemmy.ml:
Maybe I’m missing a basic concept on Federation. I was assuming that the federation feature would allow a user on another instance (e.g., on Baraza.africa) to post on Lemmy.ml.
Could be that lemmy.ml was unreachable, and the activities didnt go through. Its supposed to retry sending in that case, but that was never actually tested.
In a hypothetical future world where there are many vibrant lemmy communities, a person with their own instance could participate in each without their identity being tied to an instance owned by someone else. You could also host a com related to a project you maintain that would be open to lemmy users form other instances, etc.
There is also the problem of having your federation choices made for you. If you use a federation instance with good moderation policies, they also likely do not federate with instances that do not. That’s perfectly understandable and I support any instance owner doing that, but I would prefer to make those choices myself.
At this point it might be premature, but maybe this is a use case you want someone kicking the tires on.
I think by default most of the fediverse uses the blocklist method, which they can always remove offending content after the fact. We don’t want to start out this way, but after mod actions get federated correctly, that’ll be more a possibility.
Is there a way to publicly see what instances are blocked by the way? I actually wouldn’t like a feature like that because someone could use it to seek out toxic instances.
This is great! I read there will also be federation amongst the entire fediverse soon. What exactly does this look like? Being able to sign in with mastodon accounts or?
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EDIT: just searched through the github and the issue that asks for the feature mentions that its possible to submit by pressing tab + enter and the issue is closed. Tab + enter does work but I think ctrl + enter would be much better since its what used in most websites and apps.
This instance currently takes up 4.2 GB, with 3.5 GB pictures and 650 MB database. CPU usage is extremely low, under 10% on a 2 CPU VPS (including database, images etc).
The only thing we changed with infrastructure since then is that we migrated to OVH, because they have DDoS protection. After that we didnt have any problems.
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Maybe I’m missing a basic concept on Federation. I was assuming that the federation feature would allow a user on another instance (e.g., on Baraza.africa) to post on Lemmy.ml.
Here are two posts that Baraza.Africa shows as being posted to c/bitcoin: https://baraza.africa/c/bitcoin@lemmy.ml
However, on !bitcoin@lemmy.ml, those posts do not show. https://lemmy.ml/c/bitcoin/data_type/Post/sort/New/page/1
Is that correct, expected behavior?
Not sure exactly what’s going on there, @nutomic@lemmy.ml any ideas?
Could be that lemmy.ml was unreachable, and the activities didnt go through. Its supposed to retry sending in that case, but that was never actually tested.
thank you :3 <3
Hello :3 I made a new instance, mind adding it to the allowlist?
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It’ll get added automatically the next time we deploy joinlemmy, which should be soon.
Had to switch up stuff privatly, sorry
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mentanohttps://lemmy.one/I could use some tips
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yeah but they have to whitelist me, no?
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i took a few months off from posting. I missed you all, and I’m glad to see new folks here. Congrats on the fruits of your labor comrades <3
Good to have you back :smiling face:
Does it make sense to use a single-user instance like I do with pleroma? Probably not at this stage since it would require manual whitelisting, right?
You could I guess, but it’d be a bit weird since lemmy is built around communities.
In a hypothetical future world where there are many vibrant lemmy communities, a person with their own instance could participate in each without their identity being tied to an instance owned by someone else. You could also host a com related to a project you maintain that would be open to lemmy users form other instances, etc.
There is also the problem of having your federation choices made for you. If you use a federation instance with good moderation policies, they also likely do not federate with instances that do not. That’s perfectly understandable and I support any instance owner doing that, but I would prefer to make those choices myself.
At this point it might be premature, but maybe this is a use case you want someone kicking the tires on.
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This is awesome! Greetings from Lemmygrad.ml 😎👍
So if server A federates with server B, and server B federates with server C, will server A also display content from server C?
There’s a check to make sure that the received content is “allowed”, IE in your allowlist or not in the blocklist.
I think an allow list is the only acceptable way to do it. If you’re going to host some other site’s content, you should be sure you want to.
I think by default most of the fediverse uses the blocklist method, which they can always remove offending content after the fact. We don’t want to start out this way, but after mod actions get federated correctly, that’ll be more a possibility.
Is there a way to publicly see what instances are blocked by the way? I actually wouldn’t like a feature like that because someone could use it to seek out toxic instances.
We don’t have blocked shown, just linked instances: https://lemmy.ml/instances
Good!
This is great! I read there will also be federation amongst the entire fediverse soon. What exactly does this look like? Being able to sign in with mastodon accounts or?
No, it means that it will be possible to view and comment on Lemmy posts directly from Mastodon. But don’t expect that to work anytime soon.
ah ok, makes sense.
P.S. I know this isn’t the place to do this but any chance we can get ctrl + Enter to submit a post
I think we have an issue for this (might be closed, too lazy to search it).
test EDIT: just searched through the github and the issue that asks for the feature mentions that its possible to submit by pressing tab + enter and the issue is closed. Tab + enter does work but I think ctrl + enter would be much better since its what used in most websites and apps.
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This instance currently takes up 4.2 GB, with 3.5 GB pictures and 650 MB database. CPU usage is extremely low, under 10% on a 2 CPU VPS (including database, images etc).
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The only thing we changed with infrastructure since then is that we migrated to OVH, because they have DDoS protection. After that we didnt have any problems.
nice!