Update to YouTube Dislike Counts - YouTube Community
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  • AgreeableLandscape
    18·
    3 years ago

    A huge point that was brought up on /r/assholedesign: The like to dislike ratio is one of the most important things that tell you if a video is a scam or misinformation.

    • newhoa
      5·
      3 years ago

      It’s ok, now we can just rely on Google/YouTube to let us know what is or isn’t misinformation!

    • MarcellusDrumOP
      3·
      3 years ago

      Just curious: I always see your comments at the top of threads even though they aren’t upvoted. Is this by design or just a coincidence? Too lazy to check the source.

    • JBSPD
      110·
      3 years ago

      deleted by creator

    • weex
      314·
      3 years ago

      Care to elaborate? Seems like a sensible change unless you’re in the business of selling dislikes.

      • sexy_peach@feddit.de
        7·
        3 years ago

        Without dislikes you don’t know if people just didn’t like the video or if it was unsuccessful because of the algorithm. Views or likes alone aren’t a clear answer.

        • JBSPD
          13·
          3 years ago

          deleted by creator

          • sexy_peach@feddit.de
            1·
            3 years ago

            I meant as a user. Now you have no way to know if people liked a video. It could have many views because of advertising or being shown in a prominent place.

      • p_the_redditor
        211·
        3 years ago

        right-wingers have monopolized dislikes since the very beginning, a lot of “people” will be against this change

        • weex
          2·
          3 years ago

          I feel like I’m seeing that effect here? I never noticed that lemmy broke out downvotes but here we are.

  • eldestdrag
    16·
    3 years ago

    I disagree with this decision(not that a evil megacorp like Alphabet cares).

    Sometimes, dislikes represent the anger of regular people when companies treat them like shit, ex: Nintendo

    • newhoa
      3·
      3 years ago

      That’s exactly why they’re doing it. To “protect the brands”. Brands don’t want bad press or for others to know that people are mad at them.

      Brands include media and governments. Not only does it hide bad press and community consensus, it helps them control what the public sees and believes. It also further hides any sort of manipulation they’d like to do (either with vote counts, or with the recommendation algorithms).

  • nasp
    14·
    3 years ago

    I’m spending less and less time on this video site.

    Lots of great alternatives, that are open and promote community building, instead of censorship.

      • AgreeableLandscape
        131·
        3 years ago

        YouTube seems to be censoring a lot of actual educational/informative channels discussing real world topics, while allowing scams, disinformation, clickbait BS and random drama to run rampant. Any sort of leftist videos also seem to get taken down real fast. Debunking videos too.

        And of course there’s also the thing where large copyright holders and copyright trolls alike can censor whatever video they like, even if it falls under fair use and in some cases, even if they’re not the actual copyright holder.

  • ksynwa
    10·
    3 years ago

    So the quality of a YouTube video will be judged on the basis of “the ratio” like Twitter. This really sucks.

  • AgreeableLandscape
    122·
    3 years ago

    Kind of like how disliking comments already does nothing.

    Can’t hurt the trolls’ feelings!

      • AgreeableLandscape
        4·
        3 years ago

        I’m not saying they’re useless. I’m actually pointing out that dislikes on comments already not show to anyone else and doesn’t even affect the ranking.

    • sexy_peach@feddit.de
      10·
      3 years ago

      It means no failed video. The algorithm could push something and there would be no way for users to see if it was received well or not. Youtube will know, they have watchtime etc.

      This probably is good for sponsorship. Like the Abby Shapiro videos that were massively pushed through ads. But nobody liked them so they got a lot of downvotes.

      Also remember this failed YT thing, Youtube Rewind? Next time nobody will know it was a fail.

    • AgreeableLandscape
      3·
      3 years ago

      Facebook has been doing the same thing for decades and YouTube has seen how successful it is.

    • sexy_peach@feddit.de
      5·
      3 years ago

      I miss the 5 star rating system. Youtube has been getting worse for years. Corporations “innovate” themselves into the ground.

    • nasp
      21·
      3 years ago

      same. I feel that YT try their hardest to disempower their users.

      Other video sites empower users, and are using far more advanced technology stacks.

  • gun
    6·
    3 years ago

    Wow, they already pushed the change through after one day. Such short notice and it’s already in effect. This is total bs.

    • Gpio
      32·
      3 years ago

      The best alternative is the desktop version of LBRY. Decentralized, open-source blockchain tech. Check Odysee.com (which uses LBRY) for a more moderated experience. A lot of tech Youtubers have already synced their channel with LBRY.