The Lancet’s paper said it is ‘feasible’ that Sars-Cov-2 emerged from a natural spillover or a lab incident, but elements provoke backlash
    • morrowind
      314·
      2 years ago

      Probably because it started in wuhan.

      • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
        21·
        2 years ago

        I don’t trust the US to detect it if the outbreak happened there. Two main reasons I can think of are the backlash their biological warfare research programs world get and how they don’t really care if people die which can be gathered from looking at their death toll to the virus.

        • knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
          9·
          2 years ago

          I remember Jeffrey Sachs mentioning that waste water samples were available for a bunch of US states (with bioweapons labs) from the last few months of 2019, but strangely enough they were destroyed without being tested.

        • morrowind
          26·
          2 years ago

          I suppose pointing out an obvious fact that explains people’s perceptions requires a formal academic paper now.

          • AgreeableLandscape☭@lemmygrad.ml
            3·
            2 years ago

            Just because people believe it doesn’t mean it’s correct. People believed the sun revolved around the earth too, that was an obvious fact for the longest time.

            That’s the whole damn reason papers exist my dude. If you want people to take you seriously, you better justify your views with evidence. This isn’t the middle ages anymore.

      • mylifeforaiur@lemmygrad.ml
        9·
        2 years ago

        It was first detected there because China has a robust public health system. There’s some epidemiological evidence that it was spreading in Italy before that, but was being misdiagnosed as influenza.

        • AgreeableLandscape☭@lemmygrad.ml
          7·
          2 years ago

          If proven, then this is the same situation as how the Spanish Flu got its name. It started in the US but Spain was the one most proactive in documenting it (like China is now) and ended up involuntarily getting their country slapped on it.

  • Idliketothinkimsmart@lemmygrad.ml
    35·
    2 years ago

    I like how they make the connection to RFK Jr.'s antivaccine nonsense. Imagine if they applied the same thinking to someone like Adrian Zenz 😯.

  • SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml
    34·
    2 years ago

    I remember being told I was acting crazy, losing my mind, and falling into conspiracy theory traps two years ago for proposing this idea to my friends. I don’t know if it’s even more depressing to see articles like this or if it’s vindicating.

  • Absolute@lemmygrad.ml
    26·
    2 years ago

    I love how this article spends 70% of the word count slandering instead of discussing the contents of the report. Cope more anglos

  • Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml
    22·
    2 years ago

    Yeah I’ve had this suscpicion for the last two years, but any research on the matter gets suppressed hard by search engines.

    • aworldtowin
      18·
      2 years ago

      Do you guys think Sachs is getting better, or is he just a more effective global capitalist? As in, he facilitated and personally was involved with the total destruction and looting of the Post-Soviet economy, which was such a disaster for the workers of Russia that life expectancy fell to a degree only seen in war time . But more recently he has been oddly pro China, going as far as writing an article himself straight up saying there is not a genocide in Xinjiang. That I could get, yeah a shade of capitalists win big with cooperation and with China. Then he makes waves saying covid could have been from the US. Then he is very open saying Russia was provoked into intervention in Ukraine.

      I can’t tell if he is genuinely getting better or if he just sees this as a path to enabling the most exploitation in favor of the west. Can’t exploit Chinese workers when the countries are at war.

      • SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml
        8·
        2 years ago

        He has some books that outline that he falls pretty firmly into the social-democratic camp nowadays. I don’t know if he’s ever owned up to his mistakes, but I know he views China’s opening up and reform period as basically what he was going for and that they did it better. He likes Sanders.

        He also has some perhaps cold but realistic examinations of “sweatshops” in the global south, claiming they’ve been put into a position of such extreme poverty that they become nearly mandatory for those nations to adopt before they can begin socializing aspects of the economy and making better lives for workers. Not claiming he’s correct or incorrect, just his line.

        He was also on the Netflix “Explained” episode on billionaires and had some pretty good things to say.