I get slapped in my face with this shit on many many sites and it’s annoys the hell out of me.

I don’t even do anything shady ever. I have scraped a website once. Apart from that I try to use privacy respecting stuff like Firefox with addons. Have cookies delete at the end of the session though I don’t know if it does anything.

I have read that reCaptcha gets easier or harder depending on how Google has profiled you.

Why am I helping train AI models if I am a complete normie?

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    • @Alex1138
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      You’re kidding. That’s so bad.

    • @SandbankElephant
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      Try changing the user agent in one to the other, suddently all G stuff is faster.

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        I don’t do that because it contributes to the idea that chrome has more market share.

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          • @SirLotsaLocks
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            I’d say a lot of it is misinformed but there are a pretty decent amount of people who don’t care.

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          That’s sensible. If you have a per-site user agent addon it can be useful when sites claim to only work with chrome.

          • @SirLotsaLocks
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            yeah if I end up really needing a site that needs chrome I’ll do it but mostly I just avoid them.

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    Because you are a normie that uses Tor and/or a VPN. I’m in the same boat. I use one - that is, a VPN - and man alive! Captchas, captchas everywhere. I’m annoyed to the point that I simply don’t go to sites that use captchas. Which, annoyingly, are a great, many sites, because everyone and their grandmother seems to be using Cloudflare nowadays. Sorry, rant over.

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  • @diorama
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    Why am I helping proprietary AI models if I do not own the model?

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      Bingo. Boycotting is the real answer. Otherwise if you dance for them, you serve as an enabler. It’s not worth it.

      And when it’s the public sector (i.e. talking to a government office that you can’t boycott), I write an old-fashioned letter, print it out on paper, put a fucking stamp on it, and go to the fucking mailbox like it’s the 1980s. There is satisfaction in knowing that someone has to open that shit up and perhaps manually do some data entry or scanning.

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    • @ksynwaOP
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      No, I am not behind Tor or any VPN. One problem could be that my ISP only gives shared IPs so their shitty forensics might have marked mine (ours) as suspicious.

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        That’s probably it, many users sharing an IP does trigger captchas on cloudflare etc in my experience.

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      • @dirtfindr
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        I used to think it was purely Tor users getting most of the mistreatment, but recently normies are reportedly getting hit with CAPTCHAs from Bing-sourced search engines (e.g. Qwant, Ecosia, Swisscows, etc).

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            As a Tor user, the CAPTCHAs from Qwant are frequent enough to be unusable and they’re implemented in a particularly abusive manner. That is, Qwant presents the query page without CAPTCHA every time, thus giving users an opportunity to waste their time as they compose a search query, then after submitting the search query the CAPTCHA manifests.

            It’s a dark pattern. So after the user has invested some effort, the choice is throw away your effort so far or play the CAPTCHA game. If you walk, you’ve helped feed Qwant’s & Microsoft’s analytics and left with no reciprocity in return.

            The CAPTCHA is actually worse than CloudFlare’s. CF uses hCAPTCHA while Qwant-Microsoft uses Google reCAPTCHA (which is more privacy abusive). (corrected- see below)

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              The CAPTCHA is actually worse than CloudFlare’s. CF uses hCAPTCHA while Qwant-Microsoft uses Google reCAPTCHA (which is more privacy abusive).

              They do? Last time I’ve used Qwant in TOR, I’ve mainly had shape recognition type of captcha, nothing like the reCaptcha ones.

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    On a slightly unrealted note, what issues are known with hCaptcha? Of course I’d take a self-hosted captcha anyday, but hCaptcha seems far better thanreCaptcha, but are there any known privacy or security concerns (even on a possibility/autistic level of concern) with hCaptcha? Their advertising seems way too good to be true, and their crypto spiel seems kind of sketchy. Although I haven’t looked too far into hCaptcha. It is FOSS right?

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      • @gravity
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        Shame, figured. I don’t understand why sites can’t just use a self-hosted solution.

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    How does this differ from what Binance has?

    Binance just has you move a shape to a specific location on the image.

    Is it less secure than Google’s Captcha?

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