• ree
    19·
    3 years ago

    That account posting picture of naked people pooping?

    I don’t think it’s lemmy’s main dev…

    • kixikOP
      10·
      3 years ago

      More than thier posts, they seem to be offensively impersonating Lemmy’s main dev, which is sad. I guess it’s something federation allows…

      • Gaywallet (they/it)@beehaw.org
        75·
        3 years ago

        Not to be a grammar cop, but they is a gender neutral pronoun which you can use to refer to a person of indeterminate gender. He/she excludes nonbinary individuals.

        • kixikOP
          6·
          3 years ago

          ohh, not my intention, sorry about that. “They” is plural though, and I was referring to a particular individual, and “it” sounded non human… I’ll try improving. BTW, non native English speaker either, hehe, so thanks !

          • Gaywallet (they/it)@beehaw.org
            4·
            3 years ago

            The singular version of they emerged about 100 years after the word was first termed. While some editors had strong opinions about the singular they from the 14th to 18th centuries, some very notable authors during this time such as Shakespeare disagreed (as evidenced by his use of the singular they throughout his works). It was rarely contested as grammatically correct until society became more aware of people who were using it to define their gender identity and transgender individuals found themselves in the public spotlight with their rights being contested. Unsurprisingly the only people contesting whether it is grammatically proper today are the very same people who do not believe that transgender people deserve the same rights.

            • kixikOP
              3·
              3 years ago

              This is totally new to me, and to be honest, habits are hard to break, so I’ll try to use singular “they” when not sure. Basic/cheap English grammar lessons for non native English speakers never teach you anything about singular “they”. How sad, cause then one who tries to write/speak as best as possible, might not be correct because of how they got to learn a bit of English.

              I know this will sound as blasphemy, but what I’ve read from Skakespeare, I’ve did in Castellano, hehe, so I wouldn’t notice what you mentioned. Good to know.

              • Gaywallet (they/it)@beehaw.org
                2·
                3 years ago

                Basic/cheap English grammar lessons for non native English speakers never teach you anything about singular “they”.

                Honestly, not all that surprising. In many cases where you wouldn’t necessarily know the gender, its when referring to someone by their profession. For example, if you were referring to the person who brought your mail to remark upon the poor handling of a package, you might simply say the mail carrier didn’t treat this with care, instead of they didn’t treat this with care. The vast majority of native English speakers probably use the singular they in passing, but I would be surprised if it’s more often than a few times per month.

                How sad, cause then one who tries to write/speak as best as possible, might not be correct because of how they got to learn a bit of English.

                For what it’s worth you’re doing a wonderful job. Another strategy that I see less often, but am pointing out because you just used the word, is de-gendering language by using indefinite articles, such as ‘one’. Glad to know I’m not the only person who sometimes uses English in this fashion.

                I know this will sound as blasphemy, but what I’ve read from Skakespeare, I’ve did in Castellano, hehe, so I wouldn’t notice what you mentioned. Good to know.

                I would be more surprised if you didn’t read Shakespeare in your native language and I certainly don’t think it’s blasphemy. I’ve read plenty of famous works that were translated to English. We don’t all have time to respect it in its natural form, more so if it’s constructed with archaic grammar and full of words long since abandoned. Most of the Shakespeare I read in school wasn’t in the original form either, and had at least some amount of restructured words and grammar.

          • 56!
            1·
            3 years ago

            I’ve always used “they” when referring to a single person, never really noticed I was doing it, however my mum also insists that “they” is plural.

        • liwott@nerdica.net
          1·
          3 years ago

          I find it a bit strong to basically equate a liberal defending their liberal opinions using mainstream media sources with impersonators poblicly spamming defecation pictures …

            • AgreeableLandscape
              7·
              3 years ago

              I’ve always thought the post to 4chan literally telling people to brigade us, followed by accounts trickling in that use almost the exact same MO (some combination of extreme porn, gore, Nazi propaganda, anti-Indian, anti-Jew, anti-Black, anti-LGBT) and how closely they seem to watch for new federated instances with open registration (Lemmy.ml is on what we call “open federation”, so there isn’t actually a comprehensive list of who we federate with that they can check for changes. Only the list of instances we block are manually configured.), and how several of these accounts pop up in quick succession before it all goes dormant for a while, all that’s pretty suspect. The average 4chan troll would have gotten bored ages ago, especially once it became more difficult, especially especially once they stopped getting attention for it. The fact that it’s persisted for this long definitely seems to be someone with a pretty strong grudge against us. I suspect they do this whenever they’re bored or angry as some messed up coping mechanism/revenge plot, which is why it’s so intermittent. Specifically Lemmy.ml because that’s where almost all of the trolling is targeted.

              Is it Soferman? I have no idea, they’re not the only user who left (or usually, was forced to leave) less than amicably. China Number One, the user posing as a pro-PRC socialist but actually just posting racist, Chinese-supremicist BS that no actual socialist or anyone in the Chinese government would agree with is another candidate. Though at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter because we don’t know who they are IRL anyway.