• Halce
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      So you think it’s not legitimate for them to urge a probe, but it is legitimate for western countries (mainly the US/UK) to urge similar probes around ‘human rights concerns’ into the conduct of China, and Russia?

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        Unless I’m missing something, Canada isn’t currently re-educating minorities at the moment. Although natives aren’t really treated very well by the government

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          Yes they are indeed not treated very well by the government

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          This was apparently going on until the 1970s, and even 1990s. Fairly recent, I think.

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        It’s obviously a move from China to go “no u”. A probe would be great but historic bad treatment and even genocide isn’t quite the same as ongoing one.

        It’s hard to take this call for a probe from China seriously because of that.

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          If Canada is so concerned about genocide, they should lead by example and allow a thorough examination of their own crimes, before they point the fingers at others. Otherwise its just hypocrisy and double standards.

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            Absolutely but also China is doing the exact same thing, pointing fingers at Canada’s past while they’re doing the same right now. It’s hypocrisy all around.

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      for sure, but this doesn’t nullify these claims…

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        I don’t think anyone is saying Canada shouldn’t do a probe into their treatment of indigenous people, it’s just very very hypocritical of China to demand a probe while being furious when others want one in China.

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          Maybe if they allowed independent investigations, people would believe it.

          One, independent investigations have taken place in China over the Xinjiang thing which is what you’re probably thinking of. The World Bank went in and investigated, Pakistan did too, the EU didn’t though because they refused.

          Two, it wouldn’t (and didn’t) change a damn thing. The WHO visited China and investigated the COVID pandemic and all they got for their effort is the US accusing them of being a Chinese shill.

          Meanwhile, the Pulitzer prize winning “investigation” that Buzzfeed did of Xinjiang alleging genocide (no evidence AFAIK they they ever actually set foot in the Xinjiang province tho) was debunked by someone on Reddit.

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            The power of socialist / juche necromancy really hit home to me last year, when reddit was convinced that kim jong un died, on the basis of zero evidence. This hit the front page of reddit several times about how he died, and there was a massive coverup to hide it.

            After a month or two, new pics showed he was fine, and redditors ignored it. Even the reputable western news sources are no better than tabloids at this point, but their audience will still believe anything without evidence.

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              I blame that more on the political dynamics of the DPRK and how opaque it is. The current political equilibrium is reliant on a perception of strength from a single person. He must keep any weaknesses secret, therefore any actions that could be keeping a weakness secret are interpreted as a possible death.