• Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 years ago

    Revolutionary politics has always been one of the pillars star trek stands on, so its been terrible to see how nutrek has gone full performative liberalism and commercialist and removed all the wholesome space communism.

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      Space Communism was a core of Star Trek. No worries of such nonsense, just exploration and technological advancement.

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      Would you sayit have started before though? I am admittedly not too versed in Trek things, but it often feels that the dip towards the more liberal (and less socialist) takes began in post-TNG era, with Voyager and DS9.

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        Not really. DS9 has a plot thread where O’Brien inspires Rom (a member of a hyper-capitalist species) to form a union and go on strike.

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            DS9 is the best trek imo, the characters are just as likable, and the plotlines and moral dilemmas are much more complex and satisfying than tng.

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              Kira was great. She was my first real feminist influence as a young girl. I’d only ever seen your stereotypical female lead being someone’s lover or manic pixie side kick/ love interest. She was just herself and constantly pissed off (usually for valid reasons) but it’s not something you see in female leads, at least not in a substantial way. Bit of a digression I know, sorry lol This thread just hit my nostalgia bell. I might need to watch DS9 again.

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                I love Kira so much too. Always saw her as a feminist palestinian revolutionary. Just saw this one recently:

                I’m gonna have to do a rewatch too, especially since some high res upscaled versions of DS9 are on torrents now.

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                  I love this!! haha Palestinian feminist revolutionary perfectly captures everything great about her. That’s awesome to know I’ll download them tonight.

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          Fair enough. I was mostly thinking about all those bits, like Sisko nuking an entire planet just to prove he’s not bluffing, or “quark solving war with capitalism” - a clip that went suspiciously viral some years ago.

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            Sisko didn’t nuke a planet. He used a slow moving chemical weapon that made the planet uninhabitable by humans, but still habitable by cardassians. And he didn’t do it as a bluff, he did it to stop an actual genocide by the reactionary Michael edington. And it worked; he prevented a war. Sometimes, maintaining the peace requires using the stick instead of the carrot.

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        DS9 actually stole the core plot from Babylon 5

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      Star trek is owned by Paramount which is owned by CBS, not fox.

      However you won’t see this comment so whatever

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    If in the USA machines were invented that could replicate all kinds of food from thin air with close to zero energy expenditure, their inventor would hang from a tree within hours, and distributing them would be a felony

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    The new stuff is unwatchable. They even have a “woke” Borg now. Seven is now nothing more than a neo-liberal shill for a corporate Federation. The greatest fictional hive mind ever created and they’ve ruined it. No Klingons, Romulans, or Borg to fight, so now what? The Prime Directive is now making sure you don’t offend anyone.

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    Yo… There was a Star Trek episode that slightly sympathised with the heroes of the IRA and was removed live tv after the first airing. I want to see a pro Palestinian episode.