For most people, there’s no “coherent” ideology. They don’t subscribe to a grand vision of liberalism wholesale, but agree with some bits and pieces here and there, letting the socioeconomic environment fill in the gaps. And the existing culture fosters hate to various groups, as it is not actively fought as it’s both profitable and directs the anger of proletarians away from their masters and towards one another. And frankly, in a twisted way, having an enemy is enjoyable. On top of that, liberalism gives you a feeling of supremacy over conservatives who demand prisons and wars and those authoritarian stalinists who want gulags and revolutions.

Furthermore, liberalism fosters a certain braindead form of idealism where people seem to believe that as long as you believe your intentions are good, the road you’re paving will lead straight to heaven. Sometimes it makes people into useful tool - I’ve talked to several people who participated or support Euromaidan and they believe it was good and they gained some sort of freedom from that, and while there have been some radicals, the whole coup was righteous will of the people, whereas Eastern Ukraine was all taken over by Russian forces somehow. Now, those people loudly denounce Russia for starting a war the actual instigators of Euromaidan have seen coming in advance back then, though the supporters would still claim it was a righteous act of the people and ignore the causality.

Other times it just makes people do dumb shit. Like, all the virtue signaling and performance activism come from this exact mindset - a bad thing needs fixing, so people do something to show their beliefs instead of doing something that leads to the solution.

Mass media is another aspect, since the society we live in is barely comprehensible for a regular person. Here in Belarus “Eastern Liberals” that I know believe that a change of leadership and extensive market reforms including removing/reducing free healthcare will reasonably quickly make country prosper because look at the Poland or Sweden (depends on how “fake left” are you), ignoring the historical and material factors and contemporary state of the world capitalism that are at least worth considering. They don’t hate Belarus per se but the state apparatus, which they personify as Lukashenko because it’s obviously just 1 man that needs to be replaced with a better person for positive change to happen.

Generally Libs think that individuals will find success If they work hard. However, applying that on groups of people can easily “lead” to racist territory. Like, “black people are poor and therefore they are lazy”.

Besides that, Libs are also usually so blinded by propaganda, that they arent able to understand how people can be against the “West”(cause for them the “West” is a set of moral values). They see that Anti-Western people are usually not white, -> therefore non whites dislike the West/“the values” -> therefore they are “savages” and so on.

Edit: Also Lack of Education(and restriction of knowledge by News/schools). Westerners often times dont have that much historical knowledge. Like the Ukraine-Russia war, they think it spawned out of nowhere because Putin had a bad day or something. They see conflicts in a.vacuum.

Because libs just vomit forth whatever ideology is necessary for advancing the material interests of the ruling class.

The rate of profit has been declining for 50-60 years. The bourgeoisie demands imperialism. But saying “go die to make an oligarch richer” doesn’t work, so they’re cranking up the racism.

I would actually argue that liberalism has long been intertwined with racism.

Early forms of liberalism were enamoured with the “advancement of civilization”. Naturally, liberal opinions merged these concepts with pre-existing colonialist aims.

This merger led to leaders claiming that colonization was a mission to bring “civilization” to the “savages”. This really is exemplified in Rudyard Kipling’s “The White Man’s Burden”.

While it was written many decades after these ideas started forming, it shows that even by the late 19th century, as slavery was deemed immoral, despite the continued exploitation of colonized people, the idea of the “civilizing mission” was still alive and well.

This continues to this day, albeit covered in different terms. Gone are the times of “bringing civilization to the savages”, replaced with “liberating those poor people from their evil rulers, who are innately evil, and need guidance from the Western liberal democracies, because clearly they are incapable of governing themselves”.

As for eastern liberals, “You are not immune from propaganda” remains true. The US and its allies have spent billions of dollars, all in order to engineer one of the greatest propaganda campaigns in history. Remember! If anything bad happens, it’s because you were communist! If anything good happens, it’s because of the west’s mercy, and the wonderul capitalism it has brought you.

liberals are the people who only eat what they are being served, and they only form opinions about the few dishes on the plate, they are not willing to stand up and look at the buffet themselves nor are they willing to look at any other restaurant in the street. they were brought here, they were served their selection and everything they are ready to talk about is what they are being served.

Here in the USA, they’ll usually talk about how much they hate ‘the other half’ of the country but will still defend the USA as a whole.

They think if we just ‘vote the idiots out’ everything will be fine.

Everything you say is true, peeps, but, why are you separating “liberals” from “conservatives”, if all liberals are per se conservatives and most conservatives are liberals?

Don’t you think that this has a lot to do with the answer of this person’s question?

Being liberal and progressive is a contradictory belief system or ideology that this people hand with huge cognitive dissonance where they think that while being dogmatic is a problem, they think that the solution isn’t to level out the reactionary rethoric, but still, got some seemingly progressive rethoric (“racism is bad”) while also having idealism embedded (“individuals are in a vacuum”) + some reactionarism (“poor people just don’t work enough to not be poor”!). Making the sum, leads to “I don’t think that racialized people are inferior, but their community as a whole just don’t want to work enough! Look at this anecdotal individuals that got rich!.. What do you mean with” context"?".

That’s basically the whole thing, like socdems, nazbols, egc. They have a self contradictory idology without realizing it. An evidence, is that they won’t accept the reactionary rethoric using false Scotsman fallacies, special pleadings, and instead of simply accepting the truth about their reactinary part, they just claim with post hoc arguments in order to safe the whole of it, while they will still continue to enable whoever is sincere enough to simply accept it without moving out.

This is why most self proclaimed conservatives are more prompt to leave their indoctrination than self claimed liberal progressives.

Happens a lot with different belief systems.

Then why are so many self-proclaimed liberals/pro-western people so goddamn racist/chauvinist towards anything eastern?

Media bias, I would say is a massive part.

They are told time and time again, we are a lucky place to be, over there is a totalitarian abusive place. Russians bad, Chinese bad. So it becomes “I’m not racist, that’s just how they are”, based on their worldview.

It’s hard to tap into the mind of non-anglo liberals… surely they must know that they will be cast aside like trash once they are no longer of any use instead of becoming ‘honourary aryans’ in their mind…

To please conservatives.