• GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    Zeb fans are going nuts outside my apartment right now. The streets are flooded with people chanting “ZEB! ZEB! ZEB!”. They are dragging everyone from their homes and shaming all those who doubted Zeb before now. I have al my lights off and am trying to stay quiet

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      Besides Andor, the animated stuff is probably some of the best Disney-era Star Wars. shrug-outta-hecks

      Also, I still don’t see how this Mando movie could be anything but a direct to streaming thing. There’s just too much nerd homework for this movie to be released in theaters and make any sense to the average moviegoer.

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        Homework is why I gave up on the MCU. Even when the movies were shit, if I felt like it, I could still put them on and understand them. They were shit on their own terms.

        Now even Deadpool 3 has a joke like: “See this cloud monster that’s the least interesting part of this movie? It’s actually from the show Loki, available now on Disney Plus!”

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      That feel when every random guy in the background in a space bar that was intended to be “what a bunch of weird characters” winds up being interconnected and important in increasingly implausible ways morshupls

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        It’s so goddamned stupid and this is coming from someone who likes the star wars comics and some of the EU.

        Gulp Shitto doesn’t need to be a sith master in exile with 150 years worth of backstory.

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          One of my earliest points of friction with the fandom was the “WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT” posts that dominated forums everywhere, almost all of them focused on (estimated, usually) midi-chlorian count for everyone involved. It’s just calipers for Revan stans. cringe

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            That shit sucks ass

            DUHH COULD GOKU BEAT UP SUPERMAN??? (9000 REPLIES)

            btw the correct answer is always Darth Nihilus

            dude was an actual walking black hole of spiritual death and literally only lost because he got sick of being too cool and decided to log off

            the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural

            unlimited-power

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              btw the correct answer is always Darth Nihilus

              dude was an actual walking black hole of spiritual death and literally only lost because he got sick of being too cool and decided to log off

              That was the most deeply disappointing “boss” encounter in KOTOR 2. sicko-wistful

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                yea

                I love the skullet Jedi master exile dude you meet at the end of Nar Shadda though, the light side dialogue resolution is basically you going “wtf dude, quit being a grouchy hermit and help me out” and him being like “eh sure why not”

                data-laughing

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                  “wtf dude, quit being a grouchy hermit and help me out” and him being like “eh sure why not”

                  Basically that part in Kung Pow: Enter the Fist where the master is asked twice about helping out and just goes “well… okay.”

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          This is why Chewbacca is always my favorite glup shitto, he doesn’t need any dialogue or backstory to do his narrative function, he’s just “what if a really big sasquatch dude kicked ass and was a cool roguish guy’s boyfriend (not gay)”

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            Every glub shitto wishes they could be Chewbacca. Instantly recognisable? Check. Cool weapon? Check. Completely understandable despite not speaking a single word of dialogue? Check. Has his own personality, skill set, and role in the story? Check, check, and check!

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        Ok but this is not a random background part. He was created as a protag for an animated series that went 4(5?) seasons. Other characters? sure. But Zeb? Nah of course his wiki is gonna be long he features in like 85% of the episodes of an entire show.

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          Ok but this is not a random background part. He was created as a protag for an animated series that went 4(5?) seasons. Other characters? sure. But Zeb? Nah of course his wiki is gonna be long he features in like 85% of the episodes of an entire show.

          Maybe I’m just salty that there isn’t more Chopper. angery

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          I already knew that but I still wanted to make a segue dunk on everyone in the Mos Eisley Cantina having interconnected backstories over time. Let me have this. angery

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      The first thing I do when I come across a wookieepedia article I don’t know is to scroll down to “appearances” to see whether I should care or not. Considering it’s literally all Rebels or stuff derived from it: no. No I should not.

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    I-was-saying

    Zeb always kinda sucked and his “generic surly tough guy friend who’s a grouchy hardass normally but is secretly a gentle giant with a heart of gold” schtick was really tiring and Rex should’ve just been “the tough guy” member of the Rebels crew from the start, he’s a way more interesting and layered character

    Rebels should’ve just been “The Hera & Kanan Show, also Sabine and Rex are there too and Chopper is a gremlin R2D2”

    Ezra gets a pretty good development and arc eventually be he’s such a damn wiener kid initially and I also always thought Kanan and Hera should’ve been the protagonists

    Also whenever Ashoka’s not on the screen, all the other characters should be looking around asking, “Where’s Ashoka?”

    In conclusion, the galaxy far, far away is a land of contrasts

      • The guy that did the genocide (oh fuck why did we write it that way fuck fuck that’s too much we can’t rehabilitate that) uh was just kinda there and it wasn’t a big deal actually and he took the staff from a nice guard who fought fairly and gave it to him

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            Yep. Then in a later season they soft backpedal and he goes “Okay I wasn’t in charge in charge” and it’s really fucking stupid and they should’ve just not redeemed that character

            And they never really say he didn’t authorize the distributors either, they just try to kinda get around it and he’s like “No no I’m not a genocidal monster I got this staff in a fair fight”

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              The “Zeb and Kallus work together when they’re both marooned” episode had some good characterization and growth for them and liked Kallus’s voice actor but he was a Space Nazi and I really wanted Zeb to just kill him or let him get eaten by the cave monsters when he had the chance lmao

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      Zeb always kinda sucked and his “generic surly tough guy friend who’s a grouchy hardass normally but is secretly a gentle giant with a heart of gold” schtick was really tiring

      He’s just Steve Blum. Guy voices the same character every time

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      I understand that Ezra was there bc it’s a kids show and they think kids need a pov character to identify with

      But idk, when I was a kid I always hated the kid characters in shows, I identified with the adults I dreamed of being, not the kids

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        yea

        Ezra gets a lot better over time though, kinda like Ashoka in early The Clone Wars starting out as an annoying sidekick for Anakin and eventually becoming one of the best characters in the series

        Also live action Ezra is dreamy imho aubrey-happy

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      No thank you, I appreciated how rebels was able to live in it’s own world without being a part of the main jedi storyline.

      Also it was made for kids, and they much prefer big funny purple monster guy over grouchy soldier from some previous media they’ve never seen before.

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        Eh, you have a good point about it being consciously more of a kids’ show than TCW was by comparison and I still enjoyed the series for the most part but it’s strange to me that they wanted to have their cake and eat it too with Rebels. Funny purple alien guy and wacky robot get into hijinks, but also there’s stuff for the superfan grown ups like Maul’s arc, or the Darksaber and Mandalorian culture stuff with Sabine, or bringing Thrawn back into canon that I feel like is a bit at odds with intentionally being more kid friendly.

        spoiler

        also really don’t like the “world between worlds” stuff despite looking cool, I was convinced before Episode IX came out they were gonna use that for some time travel-y explanation for the Emperor’s return and I guess they still thought no explanation was better than that? I still have no clue what happened there tbh

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    The Filoniverse is all the worst excesses of the SW Expanded universe stuff, just even less interesting.

    Like at least when Kyle Katarn or Dash Rendar randomly show up in a SW novel it was at least kinda endearing if just as creatively bankrupt

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      Filoni is perpetually stuck in the giddy fanboy mode of soypoint-2 Star Wars enjoyer, which just honestly drives the slop even worse

      Star Wars is best when it’s basically a generic template to put a story into: Mandalorian season 1 is just a generic gunslinger western with a Star Wars framework, Andor is a generic space heist film, etc

      His obsession with the Jedi being the ultimate good and his OC that he definitely has been writing fanfic about long before he became a showrunner is just fucking awful. The only good moment in Ahsoka’s character story was her leaving the Jedi order after they fucked her over - everything else sucks