I reported them for harassment with the following statement:

The purpose of this group is to review bomb any game that has gay representation. Their discussion threads talk about using other platforms to discriminate against LGBTQ+ communities and individuals to circumvent Steam’s TOS policies. This type of behavior promotes discrimination, review brigading, and toxicity. It is surprising Steam is tolerating such open homophobia on this platform.

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    With that absolutely pathetic follower count I’m not too surprised it’s still going under the radar.

    Compared to curators that people actually care about, that’s a fraction of a fraction.

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        Their point is Steam likely doesn’t condone this behavior; they just weren’t aware of it. Reporting it to bring it to their attention will likely get it removed.

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      It is invisible under recommended, for me. I had to switch to “most popular” to even display it after an explicit search.

      I mean… as much as it’s dumb, everyone has a right to make a list and review games how they wish, right? Some gamers don’t like loot boxes, others don’t like [checks notes] DEI or PoC in games. Better those people don’t buy a game and end up toxic elements in the gamespace, right?

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        I mean… as much as it’s dumb, everyone has a right to make a list and review games how they wish, right? Some gamers don’t like loot boxes, others don’t like [checks notes] DEI or PoC in games. Better those people don’t buy a game and end up toxic elements in the gamespace, right?

        Making crystal clear to people like this like they are not even remotely welcome in your community after they let it slide that they have hateful vile opinions is the only solution. Everything else offloads the pain and suffering onto the victims in favor of not doing shit to actually kick those toxic people out of any respectable place that they can make their tiny pathetic voices of anti-trans, racist and sexist tirades of insecurity rise above a cacophony of shame and insults thrown back at them.

        Throw eggs, shame these people, and though we can’t make them go away, after all we define ourselves on our desire not to wish harm or erase groups of people, there is no conflict here, these people have always been here and will always be here, the question is how afraid they are to let their disgusting hate hang out in daylight at any particular time. Bigots are cowards and they will fall in line as they always do when they realize the crosshairs are beginning to turn back around onto them, our job is clear.

        Basically the correct play here is to force bigots to be closeted bigots, make them deal with what LGBTQ+ people have endured, see how their fragile snowflake personalities shatter on the tiniest bit of friction and pushback from someone who isn’t afraid of them.

        Aka, let’s just have a nice time without them ok :)

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          Basically the correct play here is to force bigots to be closeted bigots, make them deal with what LGBTQ+ people have endured

          I agree with the sentiment but I don’t think you are being completely honest with yourself. Churches are the worst offenders in this whole deal, yet for some reason pastors, priests and their congregations go about merrily with their lives. Going for some idiots while these engines of hate keep working is wasting your efforts. Churches should be permanently vandalized and people should be protesting outside, shaming anyone who goes in there. Why are they getting away with it?

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            Why are they getting away with it?

            Established culture, critical mass, and platform ownership.

            Steam is an online platform owned by Valve. They have ToS and a Code of Conduct. Those are published, announced baselines you can compare and report against.

            Churches are not all the same, and are generally not on a platform with authority you report them to.

            You’re asking for public shaming. Which can and does [sometimes] happen as bad press, protests, and prosecutions. But generally, it’s more difficult and higher risk in the real-life public, and less likely to succeed given their established nature.

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        Lootboxes influence how the game plays. Inclusive characters is [an issue of] perception, not gameplay.

        Opposing inclusion [of other kinds of people] is different from opposing mechanics.

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    It’s funny how they can never define “woke” when asked but have no problem labeling any sort of inclusion as woke when they make a list of woke things. To them, woke is just the safe word to say instead of the slurs they want to say.

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    Don’t worry guys, I’ll sift through all this gay hentai so you guys don’t have to I’m a hero!

    Thanks lad, can’t wait for you to find all the airport toilets that should be avoided so I don’t accidentally wander my way into a BJ.

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    Some of their reviews are so petty that I want to believe it’s satire (though I know it’s not). Game has a girl that wants to be an astrophysicist? Woke. PCs fighting equally well regardless of gender? Woke. Literally any POC in the game at all? Woke.

    These people are so fucking pathetic and hateful, it’s mind boggling. I struggle to imagine how they get through a single day without passing out from the shock of seeing all the “woke” things around them.

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      I WENT OUTSIDE THE OTHER DAY MATE AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT I SAW???

      A FUCKING RAINBOW MATE, RIGHT THERE IN THE SKY!!!

      WHERE KIDDIES COULD SEE IT!!!

      FUCKING WOKEYS!!! THEY MADE THE FUCKING SKY GAY!!!

      😠 😠 😠

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      “Portrays an ‘alternate history’ version of the internet in 1999 which is more ‘inclusive’ than it actually was.”

      LMAO!

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        Conservatives didn’t even know how to use a computer in the 90’s. Stormfront was created in 95, but it’s userbase was tiny compared to those private facebook groups today.

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      Can you imagine getting naked and doing the thing with one of these people!!

      It would be like having a conversation with a cardboard box.

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    Anyone else using this to find new “”“woke”“” games to play? (After reporting for bigotry, of course)

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    Sadly I expect this kinda shit to be normal

    1. I used to get various death threats because of a trans flag in my profile, it’s been replaced by spam scammers
    2. When they didn’t take down the Rittenhouse game that stung a bit…
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    These weirdos even think there’s an LGBTQ character and boom, instantly triggered. Bonus points for a minority existing as anything else but a target.

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    what, you think a company that makes more than ten billion dollars a year should be able to afford basic moderation?

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    LGBT is a tag on steam so it’s really redundant, bigots can just filter the tag on their account page.

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      They don’t want to filter it for themselves, they want to filter it for everybody or better yet, stop it being produced in the first place. They make their tantrums as public as they can for a reason.

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    Oh no, bro! Hypnospace Outlaw portrays a version of the Internet in 1999 that is more diverse and inclusive than it actually was?? Oh no!

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      I remember the Internet of 1999. It was full of awesome weirdos. Everyone thought it was great that awesome weirdos had a place to say what they want to say.

      If anything, in some senses, the Internet of 1999 was far more diverse and inclusive than the Internet of today.

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      They think old internet was iDubbz types screaming the n-word, racist and homophobic jokes in flash games, and 4chan. One of these chuds were even angry at me when I told them forums had usernames and 4chan was kind of looked down by others for its algorithm rewarding rage baits and similar stuff.

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        I’d be angry if you told me 4chan had an “algorithm” too… It had a raw ass bump order and that’s it (does that reward rage bait? Kinda yeah but so does any activity metric). Algorithms design to guess what posts you want to see are the worst part of modern social media which refuses to just show you all of a user or group’s posts in order.

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          It was way more primitive, but post that got more engagement often were on top. This lead to users trying to bait each other for more comments, thus some fame, all without any name.

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      The funny thing about that is that what makes Hypnospace Outlaw so good is that the era of the internet it portrays was exactly that diverse and inclusive! Yes, there were both women and PoC creating stuff on it long before there were chuds going around calling everything woke. And, you still spend a good portion of that game moderating flame wars between two teenage boys over their made-up girlfriends. So I don’t know where he’s getting an idea that the game is anything but a realistic depiction of that era. Maybe if his awareness of Internet culture only began in the 2010s.

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    Ironically the LGBT community could probably use this list really well to find games they want to play involving lgbt things

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    Steam curators are such a stupid feature, why would I care about reviews from some specific person instead of just general users? Also clearly a lot of the curators haven’t played the game because lots of them already have reviews on unreleased games

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      Curators are just the steam equivalent of movie reviewers.

      If you get familiar with a reviewer’s take on things it can help to know if something will be enjoyable based on their preferences to yours. For me, I loved Ebert’s reviews because it wasn’t the score he gave, but how he worded the review. Some reviews were listing the things he disliked, but since I knew he disliked certain things I loved, it let me know that kind of movie getting a low review from him meant it would be dumb fun and not pretentious. Butbif he mentioned something that we both disliked, I knew to skip that movie.

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        Ebert famously reviewed a few things without giving a score; I believe one of them was Human Centipede about which he said, to paraphrase, “You’ll like this if this is the sort of thing you like.”

        There’s a big aspect of genre siloing in gaming. Games tend to be developed very hard into specific genres and tropes, not all of which are things I like. However, game developers don’t necessarily like to be categorized that way, so the way things are marketed can get very muddled. I like games that are the sort of thing that I like, and when creators are actively working against me finding out what kind of game they made, I don’t always know what games are a good match for my tastes.

        Then add to that: Often games will get very high ratings because the niche of players they cater to thinks the game is sitting near the apex of that niche–and nobody outside the niche is playing that game. But if that niche is, say, visual novels (which bore me to death), I’m not going to like a game. The high rating is, to me, a false signal.

        But this is where curators can help! The fact that it’s a specific person with that specific person’s tastes is good if I happen to share those tastes. It helps me to avoid high-rated games that don’t contain the elements I enjoy in a game; and to find the games that cater to my tastes but aren’t marketed in a way that I recognize.

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        That information was actually added to Steam a while ago. There’s a gold box to the right of the store page under the compatibility section that says what third party DRM a game uses as well as if it requires agreeing to a EULA.

        I’d also recommend the SteamDB browser extension if you want more information while browsing the store. It adds a ton of features such as displaying when a game was last updated, historical pricing, automatically skipping the age gate page, and a bunch more.

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          Yes, but he curator does inform you of removed Denuvo too. So if you browser some 80% off package deal and see that you can make a decision again on something you previously wouldn’t have considered.

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            Luckily, thanks to Denuvo’s bullshit licensing fees you can usually assume it’ll be removed after a year (assuming the developer is still putting out updates).

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      I found them pretty useful. Total Biscuit led me to some great games back in the day.