Why not Signal?
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    • DessalinesOPA
      81·
      3 years ago

      If that were the case, the sealed sender stuff would a complete lie, which would seem out of character for Signal.

      It seems like your loyalty to signal isn’t based on any facts or history whatsoever. I go over the untrustworthy history of signal’s founders, but you’ve ignored all those points in your replies so far.

      • ᗪᗩᗰᑎ
        51·
        3 years ago

        I go over the untrustworthy history of signal’s founders

        The OTF also funds the following: Briar, Tor, Wireguard, Delta Chat, Bind9, CGIProxy, CertBot, K-9 Mail, Tails, NoScript, QubesOS, The Guardian Project

        You going to say that Briar is a good alternative despite receiving funding from the CIA just like Signal? How about QubesOS or NoScript. Are they also no longer trustworthy because they’re funded by the OTF?

        • DessalinesOPA
          51·
          3 years ago

          That honestly does make me question those projects a bit more, and should put some more scrutiny on them. Radio free asia is not looking out for open source, they’re trying to get a jump on coopting projects, because no one else is funding open source.

        • DessalinesOPA
          5·
          3 years ago

          Of course, I never said it was founded by radio free asia, just that it got its initial funding from them. The only thing thats up for debate there, is their continued involvement.

          But based on them defending signal from critics as recently as a few years ago.

          2ndly, open source doesn’t mean too much for centralized services that aren’t self hostable, and especially ones that delay their source code updates until the community wonders why there haven’t been any after a full year.

        • Halce
          2·
          3 years ago

          Whisper Systems was founded in 2010 according to Wikipedia, while the funding from the open tech fund started in 2013.

          Interestingly, Singnal actually introduced its cryptographic protocol to the public only in 2013, when they got the funding (see even Wikipedia for that).

          • chiefstorm
            12·
            3 years ago

            Not to point out the obvious, but if someone uses a burner phone to initially setup their signal account, that is another big layer of privacy

              • chiefstorm
                1·
                3 years ago

                Oh shit, well I had no idea. Hell, I know in China you used to easily get a burner number, but now it is restricted… Well listen, that certainly changes the conversation.

                Do you know if there are any pay-as-you-go phone plans in Europe ?