Hi, Lemmy! So I made two mistakes. But I’d like to inform Lemmy, that there is a free speech version of the Lemmy code being used to throw racial slurs around. That instance is called goatpen.co I advise you not to go there, as you will come across racial slurs on the front page.

So my first mistake was asking what people on discussions.app like to use for different social networks. One instance, as mentioned above was goatpen.co. My curiousity got the better of me, and I went to check it out. That was my second mistake. That place is a cesspool.

That’s all I wanted to say. Someone or some company is using lemmy’s code to host a lemmy-clone and make it a cesspool.

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    Just like a kitchen knife can be used by murderers does not mean that the kitchen knife manufacturer should actively monitor who is buying their knifes and go after the ones with bad intentions in my opinion. In the same way, I don’t think free software should be licensed under such an ethical open source license.

    First of all, it’s just very hard to enforce I’d imagine. Would people who do not care about respecting human rights to begin with even care about such a license? You’re not stopping “evil” by making up rules that “evil” people don’t follow almost by definition. At least the license is more clear about what is considered as acceptable and what not unlike the infamous “The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil” clause, for which I have to give it some credit.

    Everything you can make can be used for wrong things and I suppose you’ll have to accept that you’ll never have full control over that. The only thing that can stop something to be used by people with bad intentions is to never create it in the first place.

    Besides, I´d rather have my enemy use open source software instead of closed source software. If they use open source software, it’s easier to get a grasp on what they’re capable of.

    For software like Lemmy with federation, I’d just say to block those from federating to your own instances and stop giving those instances attention. As long as the flagship instances that federate with each other keep up a positive attitude, I would just ignore those extremist people’s instances

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      Just like a kitchen knife can be used by murderers does not mean that the kitchen knife manufacturer should actively monitor who is buying their knifes and go after the ones with bad intentions in my opinion

      wrong

      I’d just say to block those from federating to your own instances and stop giving those instances attention

      that humanizes them, they’ll feel like “i’m not allowed there but at least i can exist”, which is a very dangerous precedent

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        Can you explain how we could practically ban kitchen knives from being bought by murders? Also, have you seen minority report?

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          Can you explain how we could practically ban kitchen knives from being bought by murders?

          other, more progressive, countries have done it: https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

          Also, have you seen minority report?

          i support minorities so i would never report them

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            i support minorities so i would never report them

            ok that got a genuine chuckle out of me

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              you think it’s a joke? i’m out here fighting hate online by moderating reddit 10+ hours a day so people like you can have a nice environment

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                learn to take a joke bro, minority report is the name of a show so yeah, I think your reaction was funny

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                  i apologize for not reading you comment properly and misinterpreting what you said

                  but i still find concerning that a movie with ‘minority’ in the name has a wh*te protagonist

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                    it’s not about that kind of minority. you should watch it. it’s very good. makes you think about these issues a new way.

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                    The word minority has multiple definitions, to be clear refer to non white non straight people as minorities is ambiguous, they as a collective are a minority of the population and so so colloquially called minorities.

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            That is about banning long folding knives, not kitchen knives. Fundamentally you can ban things to prevent murders. You can ban some things to try and reduce the rate, but you can never stop murders from happening.

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            what is going on in there, i am a minority in usa and if i suck as a person i deserve to be held accountable.

            Please don’t give me a privilege that i didn’t request.

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        Please tell me you’re a troll.

        “At least I can exist” being “dangerous precedent” is low key advocating for genocide, btw.

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        Could you elaborate with a reason or so for why they are wrong?