I hear that both CloudFlare is privacy respectful and that it spies on site visitors (with their CDN). What’s your thoughts on this matter?
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Unprivacy service
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Must say I get a few complaints from people about that aspect of Cloudflare when I link to articles on websites using it. I can’t control where others put good content though.
The issue seems to be with Cloudflare acting as a man-in-the-middle, supposedly breaking the SSL and re-encrypting it with their SSL. For normal sites that may be OK but this is not a good idea at all if that SSL is expected to carry passwords or login info or other private info that should arrive intact at the destination site.
So I’ll also be interested to hear what others think and what the solutions are.
supposedly breaking the SSL and re-encrypting it with their SSL
There is no doubt here, this is how basically all CDNs work. You need to see the plaintext request in order to perform caching and most other features that they provide.
I agree, if the content is very sensitive then you shouldn’t trust a third party. However in practice most companies trust third parties whether that is a hosting provider, analytics or any number of functions that it is easier to outsource.
I think the concern arises because Cloudflare is big. This has benefits and drawbacks.
- Generally larger companies have more resources to invest in security.
- Covering such a large portion of the web gives them a lot of possible tracking data if they want to use it maliciously (for whatever your personal definition of malicious is).
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Isn’t Conifer more like The Internet Archive service? I was understanding Cloudflare was really being used to help manage massive volumes of web traffic ie. more the network management side?
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It was hilarious when r/firefox banned me for 6 months for criticising use of Cloudflare DNS few days ago here https://teddit.net/r/firefox/comments/mkig88/_/gtlj3hl?context=10000
(teddit or libreddit or kddit cannot handle contexts)The moderator there is likely evangelised, beware. Always debloat Firefox or Ungoogled Chromium or Pale Moon and use it, and use these over any Chromium forks.
It’s entirely on you. You brought some valid points about how awful Cloudflare is, but that’s not what got you banned. Your baseless claim of Cloudflare DoH somehow MITM SSL is. You are indeed spreading some FUD, even here by strawmanning what exactly you got banned for
flare in the name says all
So you believe Cloudflare is a good company with a good intent? That seems like corporate apologia, since you want to twist my argument into muh FUD.
So you believe Cloudflare is a good company with a good intent?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth despite me explicitly agreeing that Cloudflare is awful.
If that’s how you argue with everyone no wonder you are getting banned. The Mod that argued with you on Reddit had a patience of saint
Do not give me this false equivalence spaghetti argument crap. Supremacists do the same thing of “I hate these X people but I love all Y people”.
You should check that moderator’s history of censoring Firefox critics, but I am probably hoping uselessly. https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/msscqv/the_messages_from_firefox_subsection_now_shows/ Use removeddit and feel free to look around.
In this reply,
- You imply that they believe something they never said
- You say without evidence that it is likely corporate apologia, and
- then accuse THEM off twisting YOUR words.
Very impressive.
In their reply,
- They implied that they think I believe a narrative that I never promoted
- They imply without evidence that Cloudflare has good intentions when its basis of existence is as Project Honeypot
- then create a FUD strawman and justify ban when the voting ratio on the comments and in the post indicate a different kind of dialogue
- totally ignore that my job is privacy and security advocacy, and make it a point to leverage Cloudflare over all the historical and current concerns that loom around them
Awesome. I can play these pony tricks all day.
ehm, is it just me or teddit openned this context properly?
I may not have used teddit in the past few weeks, they handle it correctly now. Thanks.
Firefox dev team are jerks, I use Librewolf that is a more secure and private fork of firefox.
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Librewolf is essentially a Firefox with user.js tweaks , and the fork will not last forever compared to the main thing. That is why I prefer modifying Firefox myself.
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I think it will, not just because the source code is open and free, but because of Tor Project and because there exists no government or plutocratic entity behind developing it, but a global open community.
With Chromium, you have all these faults. Small blobs, Google plutocratic corporation and its ad network interests, DARPA/NSA interests and the Google developers being largely pro bourgeois capitalist slaves from the mind, who run for bread (money capital).
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He is spreading a bunch of FUD, and calling me a FUD spreader. Beware of this user, shilling Chromium monopoly, crypto scam, crippled ad blocker, Tor that does not work properly and a bunch of terrible stuff.
this user's comments look bizarre here
Brave is incomparable to Firefox in terms of privacy violations and other issues. It has broken Tor routing, apart from the following:
Brave Browser is funded by DoD: https://np.reddit.com/r/privatelife/comments/fe34ls/exclusive_brave_browser_funded_by_dod_contractor/
Brave traffic detected with Cryptocompare despite BAT rewards disabled: https://removeddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/gr8nue/
Brave also has a known history of whitelisting Facebook and Twitter trackers, and has a crippled adblocker that does not work on Brave’s “acceptable” advertisements.
Brave Browser hardcoded their crypto partner Binance referral links (https://twitter.com/cryptonator1337/status/1269201480105578496) alongwith Ledger and soon-to-be-compromised Coinbase (https://decrypt.co/31461/coinbase-wants-to-identify-bitcoin-users-for-dea-irs)
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