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    The discussion on LKML was so civilised compared to this one.
    I wonder what the phoronix one is like…

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    ITT: one reasonable comment about the topic and a shit ton of Putinist apologizers and hexbear brigading

    Edit: three comments

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    Someone just removed many lifetimes of CO2 emissions with a couple of lines of code.

    Shame that usage will just expand to fill the gap. Thanks late stage capitalism. Degrowth.

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      Wasn’t expecting this under a random unrelated post. A very welcome comment nonetheless.

      Never forget that the exponential boom of renewable energy tech the last 20 years has entirely served as additional energy, not as replacement of fossil fuels.

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        Unexpected but entirely welcome.

        People do forget this all too often.

        Cheaper stuff, use more , value less.

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      Yeah, one man did hours of profiling and the other made the patch more elegant lol

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      after he became geopolitical.

      I don’t see him becoming Putin

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        He would only escape if he was a presidential candidate or a multi billionaire.

        Since he is neither and he works on US soil, then the law came after him. You would cave in, if in similar circumstances.

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        I already explained my point about it. A lot of companies rebased themselves when political issues occured. The Linux Foundation could easily do that. It’s just racism.

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          “A lot of companies” completely left the sphere of influence of basically any country except Russia? Doubt.

          I know the company i work for has to take similar steps when the sanctions went into effect, for example. Same as almost everyone.

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          …it’s not. It is stupid, it stalls mainlining of Baikal, but it is not a racism.

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          Counter argument: The maintainers could “easily” relocate to a country that is not currently conducting an invasion to enlarge its territory.

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          Sanctions against a country/nation that is attacking another sovereign nation are not “racist”. Russia could easily stop their war to start getting rid of the sanctions.

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            It depends, though. There are western and other countries invading and much worse, but there are no sanctions. It could be racism, interests or both that only a certain country is targeted with sanctions.

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              There should be sanctions on every country invading. Its not rocket science. It’s crazy to say that russia is being sanctioned for racist reasons. They are literally attacking an European nation. Makes sense that other European countries sanction them, no?

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            Lol sanctions and racism are different. My argument about relocating destroys yours.

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              So your argument is that Linux foundation should relocate to… where? Sorry that was such a bad argument that I did not even consider it being one.

              Why would they relocate? To keep a few Russian maintainers? Because not relocating is “racist”? Not sure what you mean, just trying to guess.

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                So your argument is that Linux foundation should relocate to… where?

                Somewhere stable and neutral like Switzerland or some island. I’m not a lawyer so can’t say which country is the best for it.

                Because not relocating is “racist”?

                To some extent, yes.

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                  Switzerland is currently sanctioning Russia. Let me say that again to be clear: moving to Switzerland, the most neutral country in the world, will not prevent you from having to abide by sanctions against Russia.

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                  “Russian” is not a race. And Finland has a history with Russia that isn’t easily forgotten. That is to say, every Finn I’ve spoken to hates Russia for invading Finland… Twice…

                  Finland isn’t even the only neighbour that hates Russia. At some point one has to wonder why so many of Russia’s neighbours hate, or at the very least don’t feel comfortable with, Russia.

                  Maybe, just maybe, the reason why everyone is having issues with Russia is Russia’s own damn fault.

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          They are bound by USA sanction law, moving to another NATO country would be same sanctions against Russia

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      You think open source project maintainers should move to different countries because of temporary sanctions? What if they have a wife with a job and kids in school? Or delicate Lego collections that are impossible to pack? Or a side-piece?

      Take issue with the sanctions if you want but don’t take issue with people who don’t want to move their family, LEGO collections, and side-pieces.

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        There are hundreds of Linux developers, including companies like Red Hat, Intel, IBM, Google, and more. You want all these people to up and move to… where? Somewhere. Russia, or a Russian ally presumably but hell if i know. Anyway you want them all to move so a handful of people working for Russian weapons manufacturing companies can keep maintaining pieces of the Linux kernel?

        This is obviously a non-serious suggestion.

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        Move physically? Of course not. If it’s required to register the foundation, they could ask a maintainer from the country to register it. It’s not the cleanest of schemes but it should work. Though if Linus lives in the US now, it can still cause issues because US law system has been proven to not work and they could easily arrest him illegally if they wanted to. However in this case it’s the same as living in Russia. Both countries are terroristic.

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      He is a finn, what do you expect from him? I fully support his position

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        not to be a bigoted piece of shit? i guess we can’t expect that from either of you worthless hounds.

        if he wasn’t a complete hypocrite he’d ban people from the u.s. and israel as well.

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        Would you support him banning AmeriKKKan and Isn’treali developers too, given that their countries’ war crimes are far grander in scale, horror, and devastation than Russia’s?

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          Plus, they actually have a history of injecting backdoors into everything. Israel’s government is known in the international stage for their espionage and blackmail first and foremost (on the domestic, for their genocide of course).

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        Really sticking it to those… friendly Russian kernel maintainers. Really doing your part for your individual Two Minutes Hate.

        So presumably, as a consistent person that is outrages by invasions and death, you call for the expulsion of all Americans and Usraelis, right?

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        He is a finn, what do you expect from him?

        Continued use of the swastika in his military and a stubborn refusal to acknowledge how many Soviets the Finns starved to death in Leningrad while working with the Third Reich, presumably.

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          Can’t tell if this a rage bot or an average .ml user Notice the Z not exactly a reasonable person

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        So you’re a russophobe as well?

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            Yes, all of the people who initially used the software and tested it before you are the people who already moved away from Reddit for ethical reasons, not because of the API catastrophe. We are more likely to be on the older instances, not the Reddit instances. Lemmy.ml users tend to be far more politically aware of how propaganda works and avoidant of US interference. New instance users like to cheerlead the US exactly like reddit does.

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              Wherever there’s Americans, there’s fascists. Their media is so xenophobic all the time they think not calling for concentration camps for Mexicans is all it takes to not be racist. Can’t believe it’s not just acceptable, but popular to act like Finland has any right to be xenophobic against Russians.

              “But the war”, yeah, check again when that war was and what exactly Finland wanted to achieve. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.