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Reddit is currently the most popular search engine. The only people who don’t know that are the team at Reddit, who can’t be bothered to build a decent search interface. So instead we resort to using Google, and appending the word “reddit” to the end of our queries.

Essentially saying that due to seo spam and commercialization, Google is now useless for search and more and more people do site:reddit.com.

I think it’s a little extreme but agree generally.

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Well that seems to be also a result of the reverse. Since normal forums on the open web are dying and more and more content is moved into walled gardens like Facebook or soon to be closed places like Reddit, Google really doesn’t have much left to search through.

The better headline would be probably that the open web is dying and as a result Google search results suffer.

@morrowind
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That’s certainly true, Reddit content comes at the expense of other content.

SeerLite
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more and more people do site:reddit.com.

And I thought I had cracked the code and was the only one capable of seeing the matrix. I guess not.

Btw you can also use site:reddit/r/subreddit to get specific subreddit results.

@morrowind
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Related note: if I search site:lemmy.ml it doesn’t appear to give content from instances it’s federated with. Lemmy might be difficult to search.

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We might need a meta-search engine specific for ActivityPub/fedi

@morrowind
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Not sure what you mean by meta-search, but definitely need adjustments to work well for the fediverse.

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My bad, I worded it wrong. I meant a meta “search engine”. As in, we’re gonna need a search engine that goes beyond a common one and scrapes fedi from within. Not sure if meta is the right word haha

@Zerush
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In Andisearch

@pinknoise
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Interesting, when I search something reddit has almost always the worst or no answer. Even the spammy tech blogs steal better content.

@morrowind
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Now that is unusual

Evan
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Whaaaat!!! Reddit is always better then any other source, aside from the arch wiki and Wikipedia, both of which are… Guess what… Crowd sourced!

@pinknoise
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It’s mostly no replies, deleted comments (why tf do people do that?!), people guessing (which isn’t that bad, but why don’t they disclose it?) or just pure bullshitting. (The latter I have no problem with, but maybe don’t do it in threads where someone needs help?!)

There’s so much good content out their, but search engines seem to actively punish sites that don’t have tracking, bad usability and megabytes of useless javascript.

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deleted comments (why tf do people do that?!),

For privacy.

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But they already posted it, isn’t it a bit to late then?! And why would anyone delete their answers to questions that are unlikely to disclose anything neaningful?

@Zerush
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I stay with Andisearch, Whoogle, Metager and DDG (the only proprietary search engine in my collection). Supposing Reddit search is worse than Google, respect privacy, it shares data with Google, M$, and with this with TowerData (keylogging) and others. Reddit is worse than FB, because of this I use Lemmy or Raddle.

+1 for Metager

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I think it’s generally a good sign for a searcher’s privacy, if you look at the adressbar and the search url that shows up and also shows up like that in the history.

For example, if I search with Andi, Whoogle and other search engines that respect privacy, regardless of what I search, only https://searchengine/search appears in the adressbar and in the history, in all others apears https://searchengine/search/object of the search which also later apears in the history.

Searching Lemmy With Brave search in the adressbar and history https://search.brave.com/search?q=lemmy

Same search with Whoogle https://whoogle.sdf.org/search

In Andi only apears the url of the Andisearch https://andisearch.com

With Metager apart of the item, apear the config code https://metager.org/meta/meta.ger3?eingabe=lemmy&submit-query=&focus=web

All these respect privacy and only stores the history locally, but its better when the search item don’t apear in the history, because of this, Whoogle, Andi and Startpage are those which I use most, Metager, DDG and others only in occasions to contrast some information.

@baggachipz
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I really like Kagi so far. It gives me “early google before they sold out” vibes.

Evan
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Looks great but the 20-30$ a month is absurd. I’m looking more in the 3-4$ ball park (yearly pricing of course)

@baggachipz
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I made that very clear to them as well. I said “No way I’m paying more for search than I am for Disney+”. They said there will be a pay-per-search option, about $0.01 each IIRC.

@ezmack
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Yeah pretty much the only way I use reddit these days. Google is terrible if you can’t find your answer on the first page. I’d still rather get an answer from a niche forum over reddit, but if I can’t find a forum I just slap “site:reddit.com” on there.

Problem is reddit is also bots (if your using the articles dead internet definition). Just blatantly people selling their shit or fake reviews so reddit is kinda losing its usefulness in that respect too. Probably at the same pace as the rest of the internet though. It’s harder and harder to find reviews of things that aren’t sponsored

@morrowind
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And google is the best of the lot, on other search engines the second page is often all the same sites as the first. as is the third.

@Zerush
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Yes, but the problem of Google is the privacy and the filter bubble effect. Because of this I use Whoogle , the public instance I use https://whoogle.sdf.org) which use the google engine, but don’t give data to Google and don’t have the filter bubble, no logs, no ads, no tracking. For relevant results, the best is Andi (https://andisearch.com), it use AI to search the results which you give him in something like a chat. It’s still very new and in alpha, but works fine. Strict privacy focused, no ads, no tracking, no logging and offers also reader view in pages which soport it. Made by Austrian IT specialists.

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I started doing it like 6 years ago. Maybe I was way ahead of the curve.

@olive
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Then probably we were ahead of the curve :D

Google started becoming garbage long ago. People who act like Google becoming garbage was signified by reverse image search crippling and the whole SEO pay game, probably have no clue about searching for info on page 12 and skimming obscure blogs for information. Yes, I do that much research. And anyone who did what I did, can relate well.

I shifted on other search engines and websites to find my information and knew there was a vacuum for better source for information hunting.

@sibachian
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depends on the hobby. there is a lot of shit that’s locked into facebook groups for certain hobbies and the reddit comments are usually pretty much all over the place with contradicting information.

@morrowind
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Neeva has this handy feature that lets you prioritize or deprioritize sites in all your searches, I’ve just added Reddit to the list.

@olive
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Are you sure? You can pay people to post fake reviews on reddit easily, too.

@olive
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Since people already know Amazon reviews are doctored, the next logical step would probably be to pay them to post on reddit. I don’t know how your XYZ argument goes against that.

You can also use a subject S, verb V and object O to build English sentences, which works for figuratively any thing in life.

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