I heard an allegation that ivermectin is being used in India to treat the coronavirus? Can someone explain that?
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Also I remember reading that the worms are held back by the immune system, but a treatment (against covid) will kill your immune system which is good for covid but will help the worms so killing worms first is good. That’s why the positive finding ivermectin studies come from areas with high rates of worms in ppl.
Good summary on the topic from “The Economist”: https://outline.com/TmBFfj
“In the groups who received ivermectin during trials, the drug would keep strongyloides in check. But patients in control groups would be left at the worms’ mercy. This would make it look as if ivermectin were preventing deaths caused solely by covid-19, when in fact it was preventing those caused by the parasites or by a combination of the two infections. This mechanism would explain why most studies conducted in places where strongyloides are rare showed no benefit from taking ivermectin. “Ivermectin doesn’t treat covid,” Dr Bitterman wrote. “It treats parasites (shocker) that kill people when they get steroids that treat covid.” He concluded that “taking strongyloides endemic populations, putting them into a control group with corticosteroids is a death sentence”.”
Recall that covid-19 wasn’t causing deaths in itself, and death happened only because of existing comorbidities in patients.
You could use toothpaste to treat it too, doesn’t mean its going to be effective though.
Antivaxx family member: “The only reason why Big Pharma doesn’t wanna use ivermectin is cuz it’s cheap”
Its cheap because its developed for killing worms in animals.
Developed countries are paying around 20USD for Pfizer so for 80USD you could have a pretty safe and affective course of double VAX and two boosters, or you could save a few bucks and take a worming tablet with no/questionable benefit.
One of these options represents a proactive, sensible, and medically approved approach that respects your own life as well as those of your loved-ones and wider community; the other option is an obtuse, missinformed, selfish attempt at feeling in control during a stressful time in the world.
With all due respect that “Its cheap because its developed for killing worms in animals.” doesn’t answer the question.
It’s like, if someone said “the US invades the middle east for oil.” And then in response “that’s not true, because there’s lots of oil in the middle east because of the location of the tethys ocean during the mesozoic.”I don’t care why the middle east has oil in this case, just like I don’t care about why ivermectin is cheap. It’s a non sequitor.
With all due respect that “Its cheap because its developed for killing worms in animals.” doesn’t answer the question.
I think it does answer the question of “big pharma doesn’t like it because cheap.” Drugs for animals are cheaper because they don’t need as intensive validation. Every pill, shot, anything medical meant for humans must pass rigorous quality control and certification, and that’s for every unit of the product, not just for the class of drug in general. So yes, if you take the pills actually meant for humans, it’s more than likely to be much more expensive than for your horse or something.
Not to mention, ivermectin is a highly mature drug with an optimized and large scale production process. So chances are, the profit margin will be larger than the vaccine, which you think the pharma companies would be all over if it actually did what it’s claimed and had a chance to be approved.
Do you actually know the profit margins for both ivermectin and the vaccine or are you just making it up?
Also, profit margin is irrelevant here, for at least two reasons. First, from the viewpoint of the producer, the vaccines are administered in multiple doses to as large a share of the population as possible, while ivermectin would only be prescribed for patients with severe covid, which is a much smaller share of the population. It’s a thousandfold increase in the quantity of medication sold.
Second, from the viewpoint of the consumer, the vaccine is free, and ivermectin costs money.
A few studies showed some (weak) evidence that it might help to treat COVID. Same with hydroxychloriquine. However, as far as I know, neither are actually being used in clinical setting, and there’s basically no followup research or any sort of planned trial so I imagine they’re seen as lost causes now.
If they want to use either drug to skirt big pharma, they’re going to be real disappointed when they realize who makes them.
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Ivermectin should only be used if the patient has worms
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