I don’t mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I’m curious about people’s outlook on this situation.
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Edit: Wow this blew up!
Edit 2: Thanks for the gold kind stranger!
Edit 3: RIP my inbox! I can’t believe this made /r/all!
Edit 4: We did it Reddit! Lemmy!
No idea - but I actually think the Fediverse concept maps to Reddit way better than it has other social networks so I could see some iteration of this really catching on over time.
For something like Twitter, the whole value proposition is “one big universal conversation” and the federated stuff gets in the way of that a little bit, but Reddit has always been a federation of communities (who occasionally fight, join together, cross post, etc) - that maps really well to this stuff.
I’m probably going to start using Reddit again when the blackout ends and keep using it until the end of the month, but once RIF stops working I don’t see myself going back. The way I see it, the last couple of days have been a nice stress-test period for Lemmy, but the real exodus will start in July.
Yeah Sync for Reddit is shutting down at the end of the month, so I’ll go back and save some of my favorites and then officially get off Reddit for good come July.
I may still end up on Reddit if I’m looking for information, since it’s still a good repository of information from the past decade. But once third-party apps go down and I can no longer access reddit easily on my mobile, I no longer plan to contribute. I’ll delete my accounts and be a lurker.
Same here. It’s been good whilst it lasted. Won’t be using Reddit once Apollo stops working.
I’m kind if shocked subs didn’t have a lemmy community already in mind when they went dark. Just a sign that they ate doing their token protest and the lb back to business as usual in the next few days.
I’m not here because lemmy is better right now, but because I want to move towards open platforms and a better future. It’s an investment. Deciding to move right back to reddit 2 days after they just stabbed you in the back is shortsighted in the extreme. Reddit will not stop until it devours itself and you along with it. Disabling the API is only the latest in a long line of anti-user changes in favor of money, and you can be sure there’s more on the horizon.
I’d encourage anyone who isn’t 100% satisfied with lemmy and its user experience right now to give it some leeway, because you’re comparing the experience to reddit apps that have had years and years of polish. With a community and donations to servers and developers, we can quickly fix the most egregious papercuts. These are growing pains, and they won’t last forever.
I can guarantee I won’t be going back to reddit on mobile if they go ahead with the API changes. I may occasionally use reddit on desktop but 99% of my reddit usage was on mobile via Sync.
Once they get rid of old.reddit (which they inevitably will) that will force my hand and I’ll have to fully move to Lemmy. As luck would have it, the developer of Sync is considering re-purposing it to run on Lemmy which would be perfect for me.
I’m hoping Apollo does the same.
And have them blackmail the Fediverse? I think not! ^^^^^^/s
“$10 mil and I’ll make the app.”
I’m a Reddit mod and Sync is one of my favorite apps, so that’s exciting news! The ONLY reason I have the official Reddit app on my phone is to stay up to date on my chats when they come in.
What’s the main thing keeping you on old (vs “new”) Reddit?
Impossible to say now, but definitely quite a lot of them are not going to be regular users. I still hope/believe the majority will stay though.
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The community here is much better IMHO
Much less toxic
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and that’s a feature haha
What’s wrong with lemmygrad? I haven’t been there yet so I don’t know.
It’s like r/The_Donald but on the opposite end of the political spectrum
I describe it better as stethoscope theory.
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At the very least the exposure will put Lemmy on the map
Probably a good chunk, I don’t mean to be pessimistic either but that’s how it usually works on “big” movements.
Some people follow the flow because they’re caught into the enthusiasm of the moment while not being actually convinced about what they’re doing, those people are highly likely to go back when things are back to normal (tho in my opinion reddit will never be “normal” again).
How many they are is impossible to tell.
The blackout is only the first wave, there will be another one IMO when 3rd party apps actually shutdown (June 30th), after that, things will settle and population on lemmy will lower, that’s not a bad thing IMO, it doesn’t do any good to have people here that don’t actually want to be here.
As for me, since I joined I’m doing my best to be involved in lemmy communities with the specific purpose of not missing reddit anymore and not care anymore when they’ll break old.reddit (they will like their doing with the API).
I already feel at home here, I’m not going drastic as to nuke my reddit account or anything, tho I’ll most probably make a GDPR request and leave for good.
I have no intention of installing the official Reddit app. I’ve used Apollo for years and I’ll leave once it’s no longer an option. The way Reddit treated the Apollo developer is inexcusable.
I managed to quit Twitter, I’m certain I can quit Reddit too.
Whatever happens, once RIF is offline I won’t have the muscle memory and habit of opening it. And RIF was the only way I access Reddit, it’s a pain in the ass using Reddit on a mobile browser and their app sucks. So I’m just gonna stop using Reddit daily. I’ll still wander in from Google when looking stuff up, but I won’t be on it daily anymore.
This was me. I was addicted to RIF and would scroll it for hours. I’ve barely used Reddit through desktop or mobile site. To me, shutting down RIF is the same as shutting down Reddit
That’s how I’m also planning on using Reddit after the shutdown. I’m fully planning on shredding my Reddit data after getting a personal copy as well.
Yeah. If things go as planned this is just a teaser for July 1.
Same here. Currently using Jerboa and it’s close enough to RIF to be easy enough in transition. It’s been difficult to not absentmindedly open RIF but the second I do I’m greeted by blackout posts and remember to close it. I’ve only ever used the desktop site at work when looking stuff up and see Reddit in the results, but I’ve been testing the water with chat gpt lately for how-to type stuff and it’s been interesting.
That’s me too. I use Sync and I tried the official app for a few days to feel it out. It’s absolute garbage. Once Sync is down I won’t be on reddit anymore. At the moment I’m trying to stay off reddit out of principle, but the muscle memory to open and scroll is still strong.
I’m staying here, the community is way better. I’ll use both but only post and comment on Lemmy
Yeah higher population is not always better anyway.
It’s not always better but you need a minimum number of user base to discuss things. I follow subreddits like r/soccer where a lot of discussions take place among fans of different clubs. If there’s only 10-15 people discussing it, I might have to stick with reddit :/
In such a large sub such as /r/soccer, there must be multiple fascinating discussions and commentary. But ask yourself: are you actually participating in the discussion, or merely observing it?
Yes you can write a comment somewhere high up and hope to get a reply, but your voice is a drop in a sea of endless fans.
In a smaller community, the discussion might not be so top level, but you are forced to think and actively engage more
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Not going back unless I’m looking for some obscure piece of knowledge. This fulfills my needs for news and conversations about niche topics. Hoping this keeps growing and new mobile apps come out to support it
I’ve been using Jerboa on Android, it works quite well! I especially appreciate the “all” feed where you can see posts from all instances.
A bit difficult to know if the app or the instance is bugging out when something goes wrong, but I’ve realized it’s mostly the instance (lemmy.ml). I assume it’s because all of us Reddit users have come over!
Been using Jerboa for a week and so far so good. So I’m staying here for the long run.
I prefer the mobile website over that app. It works, yes, but I really don’t like the UI and UX. I hope we start getting more alternatives and Jebroa also keeps improving!
Yeah, I hope enough people stay to make it somewhat active.
Same, the community here is also much nicer
I’m sure there will be a huge downtick, but there’s also people like me who heard about Lemmy because of Reddit but this is totally something I’d support. Now that I know it’s here, I have a source for my cat videos and obscure video game recommendations, I don’t really need the activity and tumult of Reddit. I’m sure there are dozens like me. Dozens.
What community is for game recommendations?
I’ve only been here for about an hour, but I’ve found two different patientgamers instances… jury’s still out on which one I like better.
What do you follow for cat videos?
I’m still sorting that out, thus far I have just assumed that there will be cat videos. It’s basically one of the safest assumptions of the internet.
https://beehaw.org/c/animals it’s not strictly cats, but it’s been a pretty good start IMO.
No RiF, no old.reddit, no coming back.
I already know RIF is gone. I’m operating on the assumption that old.reddit will be gone soon.
Even with old.reddit, you still get karma bots and rampant native advertising and corporate bullshittery that I won’t miss.
I’m ready to cast off reddit and forge ahead to the next platform, even if I know the journey will be a bit rocky at first.
Wow I didn’t know they were canning old.reddit.
They aren’t - yet. But it’s only a matter of time.
I don’t think they’ve said they will, it’s just a popular theory.
Spez claimed in his AMA that it’s “not going anywhere.”
In my estimation, that means it’s as good as dead already.
They are not canning old.reddit
Yet
Mostly everyone who will try kbin/lemmy as an alternative to Reddit. Unreal how bad the UI/UX is considering the time they’ve had to copy Reddit.
Lemmy
- Posts are randomly added realtime when scrolling the main page making it unbearable
- Subscribed/trending community list is a weird unaligned logo+text instead of a normal scrollable list
Kbin
- How the fuck do you navigate to your subscribed “magazines”? The magazines tab just shows you list of everything and going under your subscriptions shows posts from every magazine I am subscribed to instead of letting me click on the specific magazine
“Fediverse”
- Content propagation from other instances is slow(?) I want to subscribe to cs@kbin.social but beehaw still can’t find it - maybe I don’t understand it well enough and it’s just a temporary issue
I agree that Lemmy needs massive improvements to compete with Reddit, but it’s still an improvement over Mastodon.
For an open source hobbyist project, it’s quite good. I just hope that programmers help out.
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your fediverse problem is because kbin.social had to temporarily defederate because its hardware couldn’t keep up with demand
Do note that a lot of this is created and maintained by people who don’t have it as a full-time job and who likely have not experienced the surge of users that are currently moving from reddit. There are growing pains, there are going to be more, that’s an unfortunate fact of the matter.
I think what will end up as a “make or break” factor for most is whether you believe in the underlying concept or not. Basically, do you believe in having a form of social media that is independent and federated, or do you prefer one that is centralized.
All this probably doesn’t ease your frustrations but I think we all need to try to be patient at this point in time. Do come with constructive criticism, that is almost always beneficial, but be aware that it’s gonna take time to get everything sorted.
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What app are you using?
If it’s so bad then why are you still here?
I’m sorry but this is the wrong attitude. His concerns are legitimate, even if somewhat poorly expressed, and they are just some among many. If Lemmy and the fediverse at large wants to grow and see wider adoption, there needs to be a way to tackle these issues, or be more transparent as to why they won’t be tackled in the near future, or never.
For what it’s worth, I am going to stick around despite the issues, because I see there’s a drive to improve and so I expect Lemmy and other fediverse to get better with time, while I expect reddit to keep getting more and more worse with time, and I’m done taking that abuse.
Cause the subreddits I’m interested in are private at the moment? What is this question lol
Bad take.
Someone can point out the issues that lead to their dissatisfaction without it being a case of “then you should leave”.
I don’t think that’s the sort of attitude we should be adopting in this community, and certainly not at this stage in the game.
I didn’t even know there was a fediverse reddit alternative until the blackout, so that’s why I’m here. But if I had known lemmy was a thing before now I would have moved earlier. If the communities here that interest me don’t fizzle out I’ll stay, I would guess a lot of others are in the same boat.
The amount of communities and engagement are great at the moment. Just need a decent app on the iOS side (I’m aware of mlem). The website is a bit more feature packed so far. Super missing Apollo and I’d pay a large sum in subscription fees, which I hate, if they got it working on Lemmy. Either way I won’t go back to Reddit. Spez is a lying POS.
I don’t think the kind of people who are willing to try out some geeky experiment of a social network are totally dependent on Reddit culture.
Exodus from one network to another (or to nowhere) is a thing that’s happened in the past, and if anything, people aren’t willing to go back once they finally take the effort.
Tho I’m guessing lots of people have multiple accounts such as alts for r34, and may keep using those until Reddit finally shuts off all nsfw.
This is still a new frontier of site conglomeration we have no data for. If anything we have contradicting data to previous instances of this occurring because megasites have yet to fail since the rise of Facebook.
There have been MySpace -> FB, Digg -> Reddit, Viber -> WhatsApp, Hotmail -> Gmail, BlackBerry -> iPhone. Neither was 100% conversion, some kept their relevancy in certain markets, but those were quite some waves.
Also, Tumblr completely kicked the bucket with its users dispersing, and while OF managed to save itself by backtracking, people were already migrating to other services.
It may be true that the likes of FB, Twitter and Reddit are too big to fail right now, but people also keep finding alternatives.
So, we’ll see.
There’s still no mainstream competitor for Reddit. I love Lemmy, but the idea that someone with little to no computer expirence is going to find it easy to join and use is laughable.
i still remember my migration from myspace. it felt like i was losing something… with reddit, i’m much more ok with it. a place is just a place and i’ll find another sub with users similar to the ones i interacted with on reddit.
