• Helix 🧬
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    If you use “CCP” you’re basically identifying yourself as an ignoramus

    Oh I’m sorry, of course I meant 中國共產黨.

    You seem to have overlooked I actually praised the Communist Party of one of the Chinas in my comment.

    • @ttmrichter
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      72 years ago

      Or you could use the proper English initialization from their official English name: Communist Party of China. But hey, why not remain an ignoramus and snark instead?

      You seem to have overlooked I actually praised the Communist Party of one of the Chinas in my comment.

      I didn’t. It’s why I told you instead of rolling my eyes and ignoring you.

      • @marmulak
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        -52 years ago

        So I bothered to look up 中國共產黨 to see if your claim that CPC is proper and CCP isn’t is true, and honestly it has no merit. Being pedantic about how best to translate it into English doesn’t make you smart or more knowledgeable. Internet propagandists like you for the Chinese government (oh, you’d probably insist only “government of China” is correct) tend to use these kinds of childish irrelevant arguments to deflect attention away from things that matter. I’ve seen similar stupid arguments in official Chinese state propaganda.

        • @ttmrichter
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          102 years ago

          The OFFICIAL NAME of the Party in English is “The Communist Party of China”.

          Not “the correct translation”. The OFFICIAL NAME.

          It follows, incidentally, the same pattern of naming in a whole bunch of other countries. The Communist Party of Canada, not The Canadian Communist Party. The Communist Party of Cuba, not The Cuban Communist Party. The Communist Party of Korea, not the Korean Communist Party. Etc. etc. etc.

          But hey, you don’t have to believe me. Just go to their official site: http://cpc.people.com.cn/. Then try http://ccp.people.com.cn/ and see where that gets you.

          Getting a name correct is the very most basic element that gets you credibility. If you can’t do that, anything else you say on the subject is highly suspect.

          Consider how much credibility I’d have if I babbled about Germany as “The German Federal Republic” (or, more extremely, translated it like you did and came up with “The Dutch’s Land’s Federal Republic”) or about the USA as “The American United States”. Extrapolate.

          • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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            32 years ago

            They are not credible, and are basically what I call wordsmith weasels. I advise you to stop wasting time with these trolls, honestly. If someone like me from India can get it right, anyone should be able to. The key lies in moral integrity. They lack that.

            The downvote patterns are observable in this thread, as are their argumentations like quoting not the institution (CPC) but a Western encyclopedia like Britannica as an authority on CPC. This reeks of their Western chauvinist attitude towards rest of the world, which I want to see dying off of this planet.

          • @morrowind
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            -42 years ago

            Consider how much credibility I’d have if I babbled about Germany as “The German Federal Republic” (or, more extremely, translated it like you did and came up with “The Dutch’s Land’s Federal Republic”) or about the USA as “The American United States”. Extrapolate.

            If the entire english speaking world did likewise with irrelevant exceptions then you would not lose any credibility. Calling it “The German Federal Republic” would tell me nothing more beyond that you are part of the english speaking world.

            • @ttmrichter
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              42 years ago

              The ignorant part of the English speaking world, yes. The part that can be safely ignored as having no useful input when discussing the subject at hand.

          • @marmulak
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            -52 years ago

            How funny of you to suggest the CCP is entitled to name itself in English

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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              52 years ago

              Imagine suggesting that ignorant American dipshits should get any say in how CPC is named.

              • @marmulak
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                -82 years ago

                Imagine the ignorant dipshits of the CCP getting a say

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                  You can seethe and cope all you like there kiddo. Every year you’ll get to watch China get better and stronger while your shithole country falls apart and I’ll be here for it.

                • @ttmrichter
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                  42 years ago

                  The troll reek is strong from this one.

                  • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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                    He lacks substance and mainly exists to troll, something like what Ivan Avalos also on Lemmy. You can read the description and become familiar with most of these types of people here. https://lemmy.ml/u/avalos

                    Edit: just checked, he changed his description recently. He proudly claimed that he is on Lemmy just to troll “tankies” and authoritarian buzzwords.

                • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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                  So you hate both China and Russia? It almost sounds like a script everyone is familiar with…

                • @AgreeableLandscapeM
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                  If you can’t even get the name right even after being corrected, I’m going to just assume you don’t give a crap about getting any other facts right about them and disregard all your allegations.

                  Fair? Fair.

      • Helix 🧬
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        hey, why not remain an ignoramus and snark instead?

        Because most English speaking people, even the ones who lived in China, call the party the CCP. Nobody knows what the CPC is.

        Interesting that you’d only answer me if I praised the CCP and claim to ignore me otherwise.

        • @ttmrichter
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          92 years ago

          There’s plenty of ignorant right-wing assholes out there who go around spouting utter gibberish about “TEH CCP” (sic) to the point that if I see “CCP” I quickly scan for the usual (inaccurate) talking points, roll my eyes, and move on. The fact you actually managed to say something good about “TEH CCP” (sic) made me think you had a slightly more balanced viewpoint.

          Of course your subsequent performance (and your hilarious romp through my past posts that didn’t look even slightly like a toddler throwing a tantrum, nosiree!) made me change my mind, so I’ll be going back to the old policy: If I see “CCP” I assume ignorant jackass and move on.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          62 years ago

          That fact that Americans are ignorant is entirely the problem with Americans and not the naming of CPC.

    • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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      Buddy, there are about 170+ countries (only 14 or 15 do not) that recognise only one China and one Chinese government. That is the sole official recognition. Taiwan is a province of China, which PRC respects and gives ample independence.

      Tell me when Taiwan has an embassy of any country on earth, that Taiwan is a dejure sovereign country. Spoiler: it has none.

      • @marmulak
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        I wouldn’t call China’s stance towards Taiwan “respect”. Even so, I don’t have an opinion whether it’s part of China or not. Perhaps only Taiwanese people are qualified to say.

        • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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          72 years ago

          Your or my opinion does not matter on China’s stance towards Taiwan. Even the Kuomintang nationalist party itself, that CPC defeated a century ago, now wishes for reunification of mainland and Taiwan. DPP is USA’s puppet at the moment.