There’s a problem in this is that there is an easy trick you can play with this logic whereby anyone you don’t wish to tolerate needs only to be accused of intolerance first.
Rather, the measure for tolerating something or not should not depend on whether it is tolerant or not. Rather it should be based on whether or not it is tolerable, which obviously is not the same thing.
Also, critically, the majority of Mainland Chinese people (as surveyed by Western organisations like Harvard), support the CPC
This information would have been useful if people in China were not forbidden from not supporting it.
Therefore, one, the Chinese people in China don’t want or need your white saviour complex.
So then why would they need a communist party, which brings the message of salvation from a white European man? You call that representing Chinese values?
Two, this notion that the people and the government exist as separate, independent entities where you can hate one and love the other, is entirely nonsensical.
People everywhere in the world hate their governments. That’s quite normal. In the USA there are people who hate the US government but it doesn’t mean they hate themselves. A government is not this kind of sacrosanct symbol or representation of the nation as you are claiming, unless you believe in fascism where the state is supposedly this kind of unquestionable embodiment. In the USA that notion of, “If you question the government you hate America,” was held very strongly by the far-right. I would say it’s a far-right value.
In any case, well-off people who sit atop a powerful and wealthy state are not in the same class as the working poor. Xi Jinping doesn’t work. He’s just a wealthy politician. His wealth is supported by the impoverished Chinese who sleep in the factories where they work. Then you tell me, that I must love the CPC in order to love China? No thanks. China existed for thousands of years without it and will in the future will continue to do so.
This graphic is extremely misleading. I wonder, did you even read it before posting it? It only gives five examples, all of which are invalid. There are four examples of racism not at all related to political opposition to the Chinese communist party, and the fifth one is political but not racist. For most of them the PRC did not even exist at that time.
This is a strange and illogical presentation. Whoever made this was just begging for a conclusion they had no evidence for.
If you just want to say, “Oh there’s a history of racism against Chinese”, yes that’s true, but stop using that as an excuse for silencing legitimate criticism of bad policies. It’s only convenient and useful for you to talk about racism against Chinese, but you don’t say anything about when people in China are racist themselves.
Disagreeing with the policies of China’s government is not “sinophobia” I can’t believe how stupid anyone could be to actually believe such a thing. You cry about bigotry but your own posts are just full of it. It’s a poor excuse for moderation, and it really is just an excuse to silence people who don’t play along with your fairy tale communism. You talk about narcissism yet you only seek to create an echo chamber for your extreme and inaccurate views.
It’s so bizarre to see someone make such a brazenly false and inaccurate rationalization for what’s going on, but I guess these are the stories you tell to comfort yourself. The only people who “couldn’t stand to be disagreed with” are the admins who remove and ban content that they dislike. It’s nothing more than that, otherwise most of us would stay on these instances in spite of the presence of obnoxious and toxic western leftists. Most of us who fled are not liberals but all you guys do is straw man and say every thing you don’t like is liberal. If you cared about education so much you’d start with yourself. The issue was never “free speech” but bad moderation. That’s just another ridiculous straw man.
I agree with you the fact that she was 14 (rather young) is a factor. She might not have been aware what other people knew or didn’t know, like maybe her same-aged friends in her village or something were never told about sex, but their parents knew but didn’t talk about it. That sort of thing. Some people if they live in this kind of conservative bubble they may be surprised even as adults to see gay people. Maybe it’s because of my age but I remember when even in America people were shocked even as adults to find out about certain things because the society they grew up in didn’t have a place for them. Yes some people are just naive and not worldly. Hard to relate to especially now if you’ve had the Internet since birth.
I just don’t think in this case she’s lying but her experience has an explanation, like her age as you mentioned.
Yes and it’s likely true that this person did not know. Your assertion that this means gay people don’t exist is bereft of logic. I already explained this in a previous response, and I’m sorry if you don’t understand.
One thing you’re doing wrong is making absolute assumptions about everyone in society being identical. Not all individuals in a society have the same experience, which I’m sure you know.
Just to give you a case in point, my grandmother who grew up in the USA, said she didn’t know what sex was until she was an adult, and she was quite elderly when she found out about anal sex. By your logic, this would mean, that if my grandmother was telling the truth, that sex did not exist in the USA and nobody knew what it was. This is false reasoning.
This has nothing to do with whether or not gay people exist, but how society views or deals with these topics. The total absence of any law shouldn’t be taken to mean societal approval. If it’s so taboo that they won’t even talk about it, there won’t be any mention of it publicly or at home, so no laws, and some people will grow up not knowing what it is.
You seem not to be very well aware of how this works. Part of the marginalization of sexual minorities does involve pretending they don’t exist, and you may also have heard of this place called the closet but if you don’t know what that is you can ask someone else.
If you think all gay people are open and out in the DPRK and they get treated well by society, I would be a bit skeptical.
Like I mentioned elsewhere, communism in North Korea isn’t California communism…
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