The alt social media are a good place to run away from algorithms and explicit mass manipulation from other big tech, be more free, independent, and spread ideas, but I also think that the fediverse is being filling with people with radical political ideologies, some kicked out of traditional social platforms for this same reason. I’m not saying that we can’t have discussions, but I think that many people are making their own echo Chambers in the fediverse.

  • Support Trans People
    19·
    3 years ago

    people using software made by fascists are fascists themselves, if you can’t see that, leave

    • Kinetix@lemmy.ca
      7·
      3 years ago

      a) What makes the software developers fascists? b) Do you research the licenses in all of the products you use that have software? Do you know no fascists were involved in the making of those products & services? c) What authority do you have to tell people to leave? You’ve done nothing but blather a bunch of falsehoods and want people to agree or piss off? Not happening.

      • Support Trans People
        18·
        3 years ago

        i don’t like to argue with nazis because that validates them but i’ll take the time to answer yours questions

        What makes the software developers fascists?

        they have bigoted beliefs (hating trans people, bipocs and such)

        Do you research the licenses in all of the products you use that have software?

        essentially yes, i do still use “free/libre” software but i try to use ethical source software whenever i can

        Do you know no fascists were involved in the making of those products & services?

        not necessarily, that’s why it’s important check. go though the devs/maintainers twitter is usually the best way to find if they are bigots or not (not having a twitter is obviously a big red flag)

        What authority do you have to tell people to leave?

        fascists are the lowest of the lowest, anyone has the authority to tell them to leave

        • Kinetix@lemmy.ca
          51·
          3 years ago

          OK, you are unfortunately down some very dark roads and are now violating code of conduct by being so extremist. There’s no conversation to be had with you. I hope you get the mental health attention you so clearly require.

          • vis4valentineOP
            5·
            3 years ago

            In fact, this user was one of the reasons why i made this post. They’re too far lost into the extreme left, invalidated my experience surviving human rights violation just because they say that there are not hr violations in my country according to they, and everything they don’t like is a Nazi. That is one example on the left, just imagine what happens on gab for example wich is an actual echo chamber for literal Nazis.

            • Kinetix@lemmy.ca
              4·
              3 years ago

              Yeah, I’m sorry to hear about your experience with them, and I don’t think they have a safe space here.

              Gab is a good example of the fediverse kicking the garbage out - they used to federate, but got pretty whiny when everyone defederated them.

              • vis4valentineOP
                4·
                3 years ago

                Ive heard about that, mostly I’ve heard Tim pool whining about that (wich was very funny). Thanks. Feels bad to talk about when police kidnapped me for absolutely nothing, and some random person the internet tells you “No, didnt happen lol”

          • Brattea
            3·
            3 years ago

            While I understand this user was being inflammatory and gross, “I hope you get the mental health attention you so clearly require.” Is not the best way to tell someone they need help. Not saying you are wrong about the user though.

        • Sr Estegosaurio
          1·
          3 years ago

          If the code is not licensed under an ethical license, which I do not like, I’m a supporter of the FOSS movement, and I’m not nothing near as a Nazi/fascist/extremist. So you are literally saying that all devs that work on FOSS project (or anything not licensed under you non-free license) are fascist/Nazis who hate trans people? Okey, and fun fact ethical licenses are not free as in freedom, they are just open source. And about the people behind X project/code/etc I strongly disagree with every extreme idea and I do not support any kind of discrimination based on anything, I believe that respect is the way but sometimes we need to be mature enough to be able to separate the pice from the author, for example if Hitler paintings were amazingly made (I didn’t see it, I just using his name as an extreme example) you can’t say that his art suck, he can be a Nazi and you can always choose to not support it because ideological/moral reasons, but if he did a good work, he did it (again, this is an example).

          And as a closing: Did you know that human rights can’t be denied unedr ANY circumstances? Yeah, you talk a lot about you licenses and that stuff. But a fun fact about the human rights is that you can be a miserable person and you always will have your human rights untouched, even the worst of the worst. And I agree that such extremisms of yours is reportable.