• brombek
    10·
    4 years ago

    Heh, same pattern as ever: corporation takes over, first thing they do is push ads and deploy surveillance. Looks like FOSS projects are vulnerable for their “trademark” (everything other than code and community) takeover. Sounds similar to what have happened to Audacity and OpenOffice before.

    There needs to be a better way to protect projects from this form of aggression.

    • ConspicuouslyBland
      2·
      4 years ago

      It’s called cryptoidiocy here in the thread (after your comment) but the better way is actually the crypto concept of DAO: Decentralised Autonomous Organisation.

      It’s a bit weird to see crypto, of which one of the fundamentals is being decentralised, being called idiocy on a forum which wants to be decentralised…

  • seedmarx
    61·
    4 years ago

    Why libera.chat over Matrix? This seems like a great opportunity to switch.

      • Seirdy
        2·
        4 years ago

        IRC diehard checking in. I prefer IRC to Matrix (been using both daily for a year or two now), but a switch wouldn’t be the end of the world.

        Matrix has a high and growing complexity that makes developing a new client/server hard; as the spec grows, devs need to keep updating servers/clients with new features or risk being left behind. IRC clients can be whipped up by an individual in a short amount of time and then enter “maintenance mode”.

        System requirements for running a Matrix server are extremely high with Synapse, and not that great with Dendrite and Conduit compared to most IRC implementations because of the need to sync room histories.

        Matrix also has a lot of features that I’ve come to find unnecessary/distracting: typing notifications, stickers, profile pics, etc. It’s possible to carve out a subset of the protocol and just use that, but at that point it’s probably better to just use IRC.

    • poVoq
      32·
      2 years ago

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      • freezingwinter
        4·
        4 years ago

        I don’t see any reason for communities which prefer IRC to make a move to matrix but your comment seems unfounded.

        Matrix Foundation, which is a steward of matrix protocol, is a UK non-profit community interest company.

        Element is a for-profit but how exactly is it dodgy? It is primarily a FOSS company. Their only connection to cryptoidiocy I know of is in some experimental P2P matrix implementations.

          • freezingwinter
            3·
            4 years ago

            From the blog by status:

            Furthermore, the collaboration between Status and Matrix is expected to:

            • Utilize the Status Network token within Riot.im by enabling crypto assets
            • Create a bridge between Matrix and Whisper (Ethereum’s own real-time communication protocol)
            • Integrate Status DApps as widgets within Riot.im

            This does sour my view of Element.

            Matrix Foundation might have been an afterthought but it still is a valid step in ensuring at least some independence of the protocol from Element.

  • craigevil
    4·
    4 years ago

    ##linux and #slack among others have already created channels on Libera