Do you have a recommendation on the least horrible big email company to use for a personal domain? I’m using Proton, but I’m mildly annoyed that they don’t provide native IMAP - you have to install their Proton Mail Bridge app.
Disroot has custom domain option if you pay : https://disroot.org/en/services/email If your account request gets approved you will have XMPP, Nextcloud and email account. Approval can take some time as Disroot is volunteer based. You can interact with them via the XMPP Community chat, which is also bridged to IRC and Matrix I believe.
Can’t think of any that don’t cost money, but if you don’t mind paying, give mailbox.org a look. They support standard IMAP protocol and custom domains. Other providers that I know of come with caveats. Posteo.de, the one I use, is great and cheaper than mailbox.org, but no custom domains. Tutanota is free, but doesn’t have IMAP support, but they do have custom domains if you opt for the paid plan.
There might be more, but these are the ones I know of.
I’ve used posteo and mailbox.org so far which worked quite well so far and are pretty feature rich (especially the latter one). I also often heard goods things about fastmail but have no experience with it on my own.
I’ve been using whatever my web host feeds me for a few years now, but pretty soon I suspect I’m going to have to start using Proton as well. I only noticed recently that that’s an actual service they provide, and I’m not aware of any other companies that do it well outside the gates of big tech. I haven’t heard of anything particularly evil they’ve done and I really hope that doesn’t change
It requires the paid version. It isn’t available for Android. And it just shouldn’t be required - email clients use POP3 or IMAP - those are the standards. I respect that Proton is trying to improve privacy with this app, but I wish they offered the option to use the established protocols too.
I use paid Protonmail but never the bridge app since I have no need for it. It make sense for business to hide some features behind a paywall. Almost all do. The reason they don’t need it for Android is because they already offer an app for it. That’s not the case for Desktop. Bridging 😉 to your next point of the other protocols; In tech you often can’t have all 3 - security, privacy, convenience, often 2 of 3. They created a service focused on privacy and security resulting convenience left behind in third place. That’s their business model, that’s what you get and the reason why you use them. If its too inconvenient then their service is probably not for you. They deemed those “established protocols” not compatible with their vision so they needed a workaround to keep your stuff secure and private. Otherwise whats the point if they are going to have such a blatant weak point of failure. If not you then many others will be complaining of the vulnerability that undue the whole point of using their services.
Do you have a recommendation on the least horrible big email company to use for a personal domain? I’m using Proton, but I’m mildly annoyed that they don’t provide native IMAP - you have to install their Proton Mail Bridge app.
Disroot has custom domain option if you pay : https://disroot.org/en/services/email If your account request gets approved you will have XMPP, Nextcloud and email account. Approval can take some time as Disroot is volunteer based. You can interact with them via the XMPP Community chat, which is also bridged to IRC and Matrix I believe.
I’m quite happy with Tutanota
I switched to posteo.net for that reason.
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Can’t think of any that don’t cost money, but if you don’t mind paying, give mailbox.org a look. They support standard IMAP protocol and custom domains. Other providers that I know of come with caveats. Posteo.de, the one I use, is great and cheaper than mailbox.org, but no custom domains. Tutanota is free, but doesn’t have IMAP support, but they do have custom domains if you opt for the paid plan.
There might be more, but these are the ones I know of.
I’ve used posteo and mailbox.org so far which worked quite well so far and are pretty feature rich (especially the latter one). I also often heard goods things about fastmail but have no experience with it on my own.
I’ve been using whatever my web host feeds me for a few years now, but pretty soon I suspect I’m going to have to start using Proton as well. I only noticed recently that that’s an actual service they provide, and I’m not aware of any other companies that do it well outside the gates of big tech. I haven’t heard of anything particularly evil they’ve done and I really hope that doesn’t change
No privacy option per se, but OVH gives you a 5GB email (and 10mb php webspace) with every domain for free. Works with the usual e2ee email clients.
On a side note: they also provide build in dyndns (sadly IPv4 only for now), which makes this offer quite convenient for self-hosting from a home ISP.
Isn’t IPv6 static by default, and doesn’t require NAT? Although I would expect ISPs to screw with that.
it’s generally not static… you get a massive amount of routable ips usually
What are the shortcomings of the Proton Mail Bridge app?
It requires the paid version. It isn’t available for Android. And it just shouldn’t be required - email clients use POP3 or IMAP - those are the standards. I respect that Proton is trying to improve privacy with this app, but I wish they offered the option to use the established protocols too.
I use paid Protonmail but never the bridge app since I have no need for it. It make sense for business to hide some features behind a paywall. Almost all do. The reason they don’t need it for Android is because they already offer an app for it. That’s not the case for Desktop. Bridging 😉 to your next point of the other protocols; In tech you often can’t have all 3 - security, privacy, convenience, often 2 of 3. They created a service focused on privacy and security resulting convenience left behind in third place. That’s their business model, that’s what you get and the reason why you use them. If its too inconvenient then their service is probably not for you. They deemed those “established protocols” not compatible with their vision so they needed a workaround to keep your stuff secure and private. Otherwise whats the point if they are going to have such a blatant weak point of failure. If not you then many others will be complaining of the vulnerability that undue the whole point of using their services.
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