I want instance eventually like CENSORSHIP FREE where people can say anything, like the voat except no limiters placwd on you and you can SAY ANYTHING whenever you want ans
I want instance eventually like CENSORSHIP FREE where people can say anything, like the voat except no limiters placwd on you and you can SAY ANYTHING whenever you want ans
Definitely not. Those instances almost always devolve into right-wing garbage and people spewing slurs for the sake of it. Anyways, the idea of free speech that people online, especially right-wingers and liberals, tend to argue for is sort of flawed and paradoxical. Here’s a very good reading on the subject.
Also, they rarely actually value free speech. If you say something politically left-ish in one of those communities, they’ll be quick to call you a troll and ban you.
Would that really happen on an instance that values free speech? If so, they wouldn’t actually value that, right? What about an instance that actually does this?
Well, yeah, these communities don’t actually value free speech. It’s often just used as an excuse for making more and more extreme statements.
And to be honest, I don’t think a community can be built around maximally valuing free speech. There will always be statements that people will be uncomfortable with (thankfully so) or that they just consider too dumb to even discuss.
And each community will naturally figure out what they want in their community, and once they’ve done that, they will protect that, either with transparent rules or by some admin randomly deciding that someone is a troll, or it may even just be the other community members telling someone off, without there being one person using elevated powers.
I mean, if you find a community that fits to your expectations, you’ll probably think, they have free speech figured out alright. Whereas if you enter a community with lots of people disagreeing with you and your posts getting removed, you’ll probably think the opposite, even if in total, they remove the same number of posts/comments.
I know what you mean. No, it wouldn’t be like that for me. I actually think that everybody should speak their mind, not only people I approve of. If there are posts removed because of political opinion or disagreement, then there is no free speech. It is selective free speech, which is no free speech.
In the history of humans, there were a lot of uncomfortable statements that got dealt with rather harshly. Today, they are common sense. For example that the earth rotates around the sun, or how evolution works.
I guess back then, there were people who thought that discussing the NSA and what they do is nothing but conspiracy theory, and what people are suggesting is just dumb and can’t possibly be true. Now we know that it was even worse than the “conspiracy theorists” were imagining it.
If you ask me, a good voting system is the way to go. Of course this depends on most people actually using it how it is intended. If someone does contribute to the discussion with quality posts, then the comment should be upvoted. Even if the comment disagrees with you, and even if the comment has a political stance that isn’t the same as the voters one. Downvotes should only be used for content that is not contributing to the discussion, is offtopic or even meant to hinder discussion.
That way, the most interesting and qualitative posts and comments are on the top, while nothing is being removed or hidden.
I personally don’t think that “left” and “right” are useful terms in political discussions, but I guess most people who know me would label me “left”, some even “far left”. On the other hand, some people label me “far right”. I’ve even been called a highly intelligent nazi manipulator with decade old accounts started with manipulation in mind. On the other hand yet again, I voted on many occasions for a political party that is literally called “The Left”, and I work daily with refugees.
Anyways, I strongly believe in free speech. I’m not sure if it is a good idea to label me in any way politically. I just simply believe in free speech and honest communication, especially when people talk about something they are disagreeing on very strongly.
If you ask me, these communications are worth a lot for everyone. If we can pull that off in a friendly and humane way, that would be a win for everyone.
Good article. I’d also like to add this Philosophy of Antifa video by Olly, I suggest anyone watch the whole thing, but if you’re short on time, at least watch the sections on violence and free speech.
Didnt read it but you seem very biased
Indeed I am. Everyone is biased to a degree, and to think that non-bias is possible is silly. Anyways, you should read the link I sent you. I promise you that it is very interesting, and keep in mind that it isn’t anti-free speech. Rather, it is a critique of the common usage of free speech arguments.