Apart from the potential to use Rust or another language for parts of the kernel, this part is exciting:
“I think that the fact Apple is moving to Arm will help the Arm ecosystem from a development standpoint… I’m hoping that in a few years there will be a powerful Arm desktop that can actually be used for development.”
I don’t know much about linux on arm but what makes manjaro arm not powerful?
i think linus was talking about hardware
Yeah, it’s the hardware (but also some userspace software are likely not optimized or compatible yet with aarch64 because it’s less used).
This blog post has a good overview - many of the readily available desktop ARM options currently perform as well as… an Intel Atom
https://syonyk.blogspot.com/2019/11/battle-of-boards-jetson-nano-vs.html?m=1
Ah I see. This really is going to be interesting to watch, because with software like adobe I saw someone say they might use a method to port to arm that could allow for easy porting to other ARM os like linux and windows.
Ah I see. This really is going to be interesting to watch because with software like adobe I saw someone say they might use a method to port to arm that could allow for easy porting to other ARM os like linux and windows.
Glad that Rust has been mentioned. After all the more bugs we are able to weed out with the help of smarter compilers the less maintenance work is going to need to be done.
I also imagine it’s going to become gradually harder to find maintainers, because a lot of new devs grow up in the cushioned environment of Java and just don’t want to learn a language where you have to think a lot to even just use the language correctly.
Rust is those cushions for low-level languages and as such a new dev, I’ve really just flung myself at Rust, because I’ve wanted to play around with lower-level stuff, but always shied away from C.
Good point. This was also true for me, I’m only getting more into C now after spending almost 3 years learning lower-level stuff with Rust.
“Kernel colonel” lol I see what they did there :grinning squinting face:
“Will code move on to a language such as Rust? ‘I’m convinced it’s going to happen’ says kernel colonel”
Heck yeah.
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I presume that that is exactly why it’s hard to find maintainers. There’s plenty of web devs out in the world, but fairly few low level people.
They should make kernel programmable with JS and Go so all the web devs can hack on Linux. /s
From what I’ve seen, people start off by working with the code until they become trusted enough to be offered the job. More specifically they have contributed code and have been involved in the community to the point where they have knowledge+expertise of a subsystem such that they are as capable or more than the current/prior maintainers.
Project Eudyptula was an interesting attempt - basically a set of programming challenges that build up to actually submitting a kernel patch.
It’s on hiatus now though, but they still let existing users finish. I should try and find my old challenge emails and finish them!
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