Why does BadEmpanada always have to fuck up and act like a liberal? Like hes recently stated that “tankie is just a buzzword used by liberals” and also made a based video debunking the Holodomor and exposing the double genocide theory, but then he still makes trash like this. “Grover Furr is basically a stalinist holocaust denier” “Hes not taken seriously by anyone [meaning liberal academia]” “Only 14 year old Twitter stalinists read him”. “Hes not a serious historian” No analysis of his books, no evidence, no arguments, just the good ol “if liberal academia doesnt approve what you say then its wrong” spiced up with some double genocide bs (“stalinist denial=holocaust denial”). Like literally, Furr cites the same “respectable historians” BE cited in his Holodomor video and arrives pretty much at the same conclusion about the Holodomor, that it wasnt a genocide nor man made (as in intentionally made). And yet, somehow, Grover Furr is a “stalinist holocaust denier”. How can you be this stupid? I dont understand, please help.
I always hate how he sometimes ends an argument/video by also adding that China/Russia is Imperialist too. Like, he lists gazillion points of how the USA lies/does crime and analysis each one and ends it by saying “China/Russia bad” without any actual reason given.
It’s like he feels the need to counter anything seriously based he’s saying with some hollow both-sideism to appear as the “balanced, rational one unlike the others”.
Yep, i get this vibe a lot too.
without any actual reason given.
When he does give reasons they’re lies. He’s either a glowie or glowie adjacent.
I dont think hes a glowie, i think hes just dumb because hes anglo
What does glowie mean ?i thought it meant conspirationist lol
It means infiltrated CIA/FBI/other government agency. They call them glowies because they “glow in the dark” since its obvious they dont belong where they are.
Always found it to be dubious because it assumes communists are a monolith instead of a broad discourse that involves people with varying experiences and levels of education and even differing class character. Sometimes people are wrong or otherwise liberal or essentialist but yet not cops.
When they have substantial reach like Youtubers do and their material is conflicting in an odd way like this, my glowie senses start tingling. But yeah maybe I’m reading too much into it.
I dont mean you specifically. Its just a trend that is worth mentioning. I absolutely agree with you that occasionally (perhaps somewhat frequently actually) the cop senses are tingling when I hear what these tubers and influencers are up to.
Ohhhhhh ok lol. Thanks!
I think he is a oppertunist. He had created his own niche audience. He is mainly pondering to them. If he is able to get a cushy media job, he will accept it and become even more deranged.
With the kinds of videos he uploads, I doubt he’s going for a job in corporate media lol. Just too unprofessional
It means CIA (and other 3 letter agencies)
He is Australian and that’s a terminal condition, sadly.
I know right? Like on latin american politics he always gets it right, calling out the coups in Bolivia and Venezuela and the bs about “muh Maduro/Morales authoritarian”. But somehow with China and Russia he doesnt say the same thing. He supported the Hong Kong protests and supports Ukraine now, calling Putin a “murderous evil bastard”. He also loves ranting about “stalinists”. Are anglos just permanently brainwashed or what?
Are anglos just permanently brainwashed or what?
Not necessarily permanent, but very, very hard to get rid of. It is ingrained from birth, and schools try their best to condition you not to question anything. I’m lucky enough to have noticed and resisted the conditioning, but had to pay the price of being extremely stressed in school, which led to burnout and a low GPA, which has repercussions in the future.
They will try as hard as they can to indoctrinate you, and if they can’t, they make sure to make your life as difficult as possible.
Then, there’s the fact that they teach everyone that people who don’t agree with the propaganda are evil fascists who want to destroy freedom and democracy, which means that if you reject the propaganda, you get vilified for it. Therefore, the more social a person is, the less likely they will be to reject the propaganda, and a lot of them will be in denial of the truth because they don’t want to lose relationships over it.
It’s truly an evil, despicable system that needs to be abolished.
It works exactly like a fucking religion, for fuck’s sake…
Yeah his politics are such a bizarre mixture between dialectical materialism and bog standard liberal idealism. I don’t know how he reconciles the cognitive dissonance.
I guess you can take the empanada out of straya, but you can’t take the straya out of the empanada.
This. I geniunely dont get how he can be this inconsistent. Like one moment hell be (rightfully) dunking on Vaush or Azov Something for defending the neonazis in Ukraine and the next hell be like “Ukraine is in the right, Putin bad, we must support Ukraine”. Like how do you reconcile “Ukraine is full of nazis and thats bad” with “we must support Ukraine”. Geniunely incomprehensible. Also he geniunely believes Russia and China are imperialist, although at least he says the US is way worse. Also what is straya? I dont know what that is.
Nazis are bad, but have you considered that Russia is full of super-duper Nazis? I know because western media told me so. 🤓
Also “straya” is just how Australians pronounce “Australia” haha
Oh i didnt know that ahahaha. Yeah, he basically said “yeah ukrainian nazis are very bad but Ukraine is facing imperialist aggression so we must support Zelenski”.
Also he doesn’t even just support soc dems, he likes Castro and Che, like fam you are so close but so far as the same time
Exactly. Like dude just made a video debunking the holodomor but then says shit like this.
Unfortunately, once an Anglo, always an Anglo.
Critical support for emus.
Like Chomsky, he has Western Leftist Syndrome™
Chomsky is worse than BE though. BE doesnt say “akchually the collapse of the USSR was a good thing” thank god. He also doesnt say the good ol “USSR was state capitalist” bs
He’s pro-USSR but anti-Stalin? <small><small>I haven’t actually watched the video, but I assume so if he thinks that Grover Furr was lying</small></small>
He says Stalin did bad things because “ebil guleg purges” but he also did good because he industrialized USSR and established socialism. Id say hes kind of a khrushchevite.
<small>Marxism-Leninism-Cornmanism</small>
In that case, as you said, definitely better than Chomsky’s takes on (most?) AES countries.
Listen to vic:
so he’s the worst
He kinda went on a 4-hour rant or something saying that the “Uyghur genocide” was real.
And aimed his video at BayArea415 specifically.
what a goddamn tool
Yep!
I watched one video from him when BayArea was still around and instantly hated him
Yeah he mocked BayArea as “a LARPer” for some reason. Hes so dumb sometimes.
Yeah, made a 4-hour video attacking BayArea415’s other video on the Uyghur genocide.
He’s one of those people who gets off of attacking others and feeling superior over it. I dislike these kind of people regardless of their politics. Criticizing people is of course fine but if I get the feeling you’re doing it to please yourself rather than spread awareness about important topics then it makes me dislike greatly.
Yeah, agreed
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Same. I thought he was getting based after he said “tankie is a meaningless slur” and made that based video debunking the holodomor, but then he posts this shit and breaks all my hopes.
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Hakim, Luna and NonCompete are based. Even if NC is an anarchist he doesnt believe western propaganda so its ok.
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ehhh, they cool for establishing and getting our movements off the ground. We will eventually part ways though.
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Material interests. He is good on latin american matters because he lives there. Not on other matters where being a lib is of advantage. He isn’t dumb, at least subconsciously understands where his bread is buttered.
He is very bizarre when it comes to Latin America, he is good and knows a lot, but otherwise he wears the mask of an Anglo.
Exactly. Its so strange.
Hell, even I have problems with Grover Furr, but this is bigger than him lol
Because Argentinans are heavily Tortskists in general, and ML Argentinans are fucking fed with it.
I think he was born and raised in Australia. Not sure if his move to Argentina has anything to do with his heritage.
He isnt argentinian indeed, he just lives there.
Anglos gonna Anglo, then… Man, this explains his Sinophobic takes
I think he is of Greek descent.
He isnt argentinian tho, he just lives there. AFAIK he isnt a trot, he dislikes Trotsky. Hes more of a khrushchevite id say.
That’s a new one, never heard of anyone actively praise Khrushchev other than liberals praising him for shit talking Stalin.
I mean he doesnt like explicitly praise Khrushchev, but he supports USSR while disliking Stalin, so its kinda like corn man
Thats like praising kruschev with extra steps!
Who… Who the fuck can be a suporter of Khrushev!? And not even a real Argentinan? Man, this begins to explain things
He’s not a Khruschevite.
He’s not even ML.
He’s Australian.
This explain his bad takes against China, then
Yeah, kept attacking BayArea415 and me on Twitter.
And even called Daniel Dumbrill a “sexpat”, the fucking nerve.
Yep
wait why did he attack you?
He thought I was BayArea415 and started attacking me out of the blue.
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