Welcome again to everybody! Make yourself at home <3 In the time honoured tradition of our group, here is our weekly discussion thread!

“Each day we get closer to Communism!” - u/fazesalad

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For interested people you can download an archive of the subreddit here It is in sqlite format and contains all submissions and comments dating back to 2019. I update it on Today (updated successfully on 17/4. Be warned it’s a big file.

You can also now view an index of all the videos submitted to r/GenZedong here: https://tankies.la/videos/

Be warned, it’s like marxists.org level of web design as I’m only interested in it working, not its appearance rn. Also it’s a few days behind, but i’ll get it updating nightly soon.

  • Nocheztli ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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    “Why did the Soviet Union disintegrate? Why did the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) fall to pieces? An important reason is that in the ideological domain, competition is fierce! To completely repudiate the historical experience of the Soviet Union, to repudiate the history of the CPSU, to repudiate Lenin, to repudiate Stalin was to wreck chaos in Soviet ideology and engage in historical nihilism. It caused Party organizations at all levels to have barely any function whatsoever. It robbed the Party of its leadership of the military. In the end the CPSU — as great a Party as it was — scattered like a flock of frightened beasts! The Soviet Union — as great a socialist state as it was — shattered into pieces. This is a lesson from the past!”

    -Xi Jinping.

  • BrezhnevsEyebrows@lemmygrad.ml
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    My dad gave me a ¥5 note the other day just because he thought I’d like it. He (along with the rest of my family) is a liberal but he knows I’m a communist and that I like China so I honestly really appreciate the gesture so much. I can’t tell anyone irl so I’m putting it here

  • Catradora-Stalinism☭@lemmygrad.mlM
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    I stumbled upon some honest to god Fanfiction about the war in ukraine. Liberals gonna liberal. I may post some of it here, although I’ve been too disgusted to read it, even if it does use my favorite characters.

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      China proving itself a force of good once again by banning ArchiveOfOurOwn. That site has one of the worst userbases possible.

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          Mao failed to consider the fandom-sick type of liberalism /s. Unable to engage with reality, this adult only deals with (low quality) transformative works because the nuances and weight of real life conflict is scary. They have “works” about BLM protests, Amazon unions, police brutality. It’s horrifying. What’s the reason that site has amassed that type of userbase? Does it really lack moderation?

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            yes, its full of fucking CP and several types of disgusting pornography. Some libs defend it saying “its written so its not actually porn” and other pathetic arguments. Their politics is mostly neoliberal, perhaps due to the amount of liberal media. I always read their versions of activism that they would clumsily shove in with much distaste, although I’m mostly able to avoid it. They abuse stories and characters to live out their neoliberal fantasies. The author I mentioned earlier has stories in this range with a huge following, but I didn’t think they would make a fanfic about a fucking active warzone, I find it extremely distasteful, you just don’t fucking do that

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      Wow, I would have assumed it would just feature Zelenskyy and a bunch of Nazi’s - what fictional characters did they shoehorn in there?

      Thinking about it though… I wouldn’t mind seeing the protagonist of the worm-verse take her utilitarian mindset out on some Nazi’s, this might be fun from the right perspective. Ludicrous, but fun.

      • Catradora-Stalinism☭@lemmygrad.mlM
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        nope, mostly libshit, sorry. They also took the characters I like most (Catra and Adora) and shoehorned them into a libshit fantasy. Its not the first time they’ve done this either, this person has several fanfics of just liberal shit.

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    I think we lost a lot of people in the transition. Lemmygrad feels much slower than our peak over on Reddit.

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      I think it unfortunately might just be a “I’m comfortable with reddit” thing. We’ve got to do a better job of getting people moved over.

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      “Lemmy app” usually means that it’s an app for lemmy software, not specifically the guys at lemmy.ml who run a copy for themselves. I use Jerboa on Android, and you just select lemmygrad.ml as one of the instances. Lemmur had the option to type an instance but it didn’t work for lemmygrad for some reason.

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      There are three lemmygrad apps: Lemmur, which works for Android, Linux, and Windows; Jerboa which works for Android; and Remmel for which works for iOS. They can all be found here: https://join-lemmy.org/apps/ Personally, I use Jerboa.

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    Is there a problem with Lemmygrad? I can access lemmy but not the lemmygrad instance. ):

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    There’s a question I wanted to ask for a while, so might as well use the opportunity.

    So DPRK is usually listed as an AES country, from what I’ve seen. Now, I know too little about their political system, and frankly too little actual Marxist theory, so perhaps it makes sense. But here’s the question: why have all leaders of the DPRK were from the same family? Coincidence? Symbolism? Does such apparent heredity not contradict the socialist concept?

    Thank you in advance.

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    Man discourse on some parts of the right atm is absolutely wild. They’re genuinely seeing themselves as principled anti-war activists in a long right-wing anti-war tradition.

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        To them it’s “humanitary” interventionism, they believe whatever they want to believe to make themselves look like the good guys.

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        The guys I’m talking about seem to see themselves as different from “neocons”, which they correctly identify as warhawks. They see themselves opposing those factions of the right which pushed for those wars (at least for the moment). Idk if they’d call themselves that, but to me they kinda sound like some mythical “classical conservative” - conservative conservatives if you want.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Hghw2gIPE

        Watch from about minute 52:00. Absolutely fascinating watching these guys wrestle with the contradictions in capitalism and imperialism of which they are kinda aware of, but that they can’t really reconcile with their current framework.

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          This livestream was wild. I only watched 20 mins after the 52:00 mark but these guys will describe the bourgeoisie perfectly, recognize the difference in how this “elite” group acts versus what the average American/“Western citizen” supports and then just… shit on Marxists.

          Also at one point one of them mentions the “socialist/Marxist” perception of Americans as warmongerers is incorrect because most Americans aren’t fervent supporters of war (which wasn’t at all the case for the war in Iraq, which 73% of Americans supported, but whatever) and like, even if this were true, my perception is that most Americans would oppose a war ideologically until they saw the material consequences of that (i.e. decline in their quality of life and/or scarcity of consumer goods).

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    My quasi-fascist step-dad thinks I’m some sort of conservative because I hate liberals, not knowing I mean him too.

    Lol

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    I preferred the middle-aged version of gender-swapped Xi. You know, the one with “I need to speak to the manager of poverty” vibes.

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    There are radio commercials in the country I live in that make fun of the insane inflation and then say: but at our stores you will find lower prices!!! Like, my brother in Allah your insane profit driven incentive is a big reason the prices are this high.

    I also just realized that profit is one of the big things standing in between going for a greener world and just keep fucking it up.

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    I would appreciate it if this website had an API wrapper in a language that didn’t make me want to strangle myself.

    Yes ik the answer to that is to make it myself. Ugggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I’ll get around to it…