Most of you reading this are here because /r/GenZedong was quarantined. While this place is very similar to Reddit, it also has a major difference that can make it a bit confusing, which is the Federation part. Without wasting anyone’s time, I’ll explain things right away.
1) What is Lemmy?
Lemmy is a link-aggregator, similar to sites like Reddit and HackerNews. But unlike Reddit, it isn’t really a website you can visit, it is just a source code. But that code is Open Source, meaning anyone can see it, edit it, and use it. It was designed in such a way that you can easily take the code and create your own website with it (with some technical knowledge of course). So you can buy the domain FuckRedditLibs.com right now and make it a Lemmy website, or as we call it, a Lemmy “Instance”.
2) What is Lemmygrad?
As you can all deduce by now, Lemmygrad is a Lemmy instance. Someone took the Lemmy code, bought the Lemmygrad.ml domain, and hosted the code there. The admins of Lemmygrad.ml only control Lemmygrad.ml, they have no authority over other instances. But that means that no one has authority over Lemmygrad.ml except Lemmygrad.ml admins. If you create an instance, there is no higher power you have to adhere to like in Reddit. You are the captain now.
If you look at Lemmygrad.ml as a standalone website, a rival to Reddit, you don’t have to understand what Federation means. You can create a user account, create/join a community (subreddit), post links/images/text, basically most things you expect to do. So unlike what some might think, Lemmygrad isn’t just GenZedong. GenZedong is just a community there (!genzedong@lemmygrad.ml). There are other communities obviously, like !communism@lemmygrad.ml , !shitliberalssay@lemmygrad.ml , and !memes@lemmygrad.ml . You can see a list of all the communities here.
3) What does Federation mean?
Though as said before, you can look at Lemmygrad as a standalone website. But you aren’t really supposed to. What makes Lemmy powerful is the federation aspect. So Lemmygrad.ml exists. Lemmy.ml also exists (it is the instance created by the Lemmy developers, but that doesn’t make it anymore “official” or important than other instances, all instances are equal). The cool thing is that all the instances are connected. If you create an account on Lemmygrad.ml, you can also view and participate with communities from all other instances! Don’t believe me? Check my username. It should say @MarcellusDrum@lemmy.ml, which means I have created my account in Lemmy.ml, but I can post here in !genzedong@lemmygrad.ml , which is a Lemmygrad.ml community.
This is difference between the “Local” and “All” filter you see at the top of the home page. “Local” means posts from communities in your instance, and “All” means posts from communities from all federated instances. You can see the name of the instance after the usernames/name of the communities.
But as we said, even though they are federated, all instances are standalone sites. So !communism@lemmy.ml and !communism@lemmygrad.ml can coexist, with different moderators, posts, users and rules. They are completely independent places.
As such, if you created an account by going to Lemmygrad.ml, your account is linked to this instance. You can’t go to Lemmy.ml and login using the same account there. Accounts aren’t federated. So everytime you have to login, you will have to go to Lemmygrad.ml (or the instance you created your account on). If you are using an application like Lemmur, you have to specify which instance your account is linked to.
Same with communities, account names are only unique in an instance. Someone can use your exact username in another instance.
If you have any questions, please let me know!
Its very exciting, because although there are just a few lemmy instances now, it has the potential to grow outward in a huge interconnected web… everyone commenting and interacting using different services like mastodon or friendica.
While I don’t really find the concept of interacting with Mastodon/Friendica using Lemmy useful, I agree that using federated services should be the future, as it is the only way to ensure our freedom and privacy.
I have experience with federated spaces, i was in Mastodon. However, mastodon emulates twitter, which is too focused on the individual people to work well if you don’t already have friends there (imo). A reddit-like site focused on communities and topics is much more apt for a thing like this, given that we (as a community) have tons of experience creating and managing small subreddits. Happy to be here and hope to see Lemmygrad’s continued existence as a genuine safe space for the development of a marxist online community.
Agreed comrade. It is up to us the early adopters to inform others about the Fediverse, and to be very active, so that the communities aren’t empty when others come to join.
You can also have a look at the official website for Lemmy: join-lemmy.org. It has general information, a list of Lemmy instances, documentation (including how to setup Lemmy yourself), and other things. If you want to introduce others to the project, it is probably the best place to link to.
I tried including lemmygrad as an instance in lemmur using the url but its keeps giving me an error.
How am I supposed to add this as an instance?
Lemmur seems to be broken currently. I recommend Jerboa as an alternative.
Thank you!
My only confusion is there seem to be more lib sites connected to Lemmy, so I understand that I can just use Lemmygrad and not see any other sites in my feed, but that seems like a recipe for trouble if someone stumbles into one site or another. To be fair, worst I’ve seen so far is posts seem to get downvoted because apparently people who aren’t leftist will see Lemmygrad posts if they’re sorting by All. I get that it’s open source, but why would we want everyone connected like that? And what if a fascist instance started using Lemmy, is there anything that could/would be done about that?
Good question. Yes this can be solved. Lemmygrad (or any instance) can choose not to be part of the Fediverse, so that you as a Lemmygrad user won’t be able to see other instances, and they can’t see you.
The Lemmygrad admins also have the option to not federate with a particular instance, such that they are connected to the Fediverse, but not to fascist instances for example.
On mastodon, there is a highly active tag called #fediblock which is mainly used to keep a finger on the pulse of which servers to defederate from if you want to avoid fash/alt-right content. It’s very useful for keeping federation alive without brainworms and harrassment.
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