Thankfully for things other than books (and maybe also for books), a lot of companies offer two day shipping now. Sometimes there’s an order minimum for that but I find that most of the time my purchase exceeds the order minimum anyway.
Both KDE and Gnome can be seen as pretty bloated. They come pre-packaged with a lot of programs and tools that sit around unused, possibly even having corresponding daemons running for no reason.
For someone who doesn’t want to think about their computer, and just want to know it’s prepared for anything, they may want that. But if they left windows/mac to have a smaller, simpler OS that isn’t wasting CPU cycles or disk space on superfluous stuff, then KDE/Gnome might not suit them.
Edit: that said, I’ve heard of a lot of alternative DEs/WMs, but I’ve never heard of JWM. I’ve heard good things about Budgie, might also check that out.
They’re using a window manager over a full DE, so it’s likely the usual case of preferring minimalism to the very complete desktop environment (which many consider bloated). I’m a window manager person myself, but I’ve been giving KDE a good honest try for the past couple of weeks. It’s definitely very nice if you want the full DE experience.
I went the WM route for a while. At a certain point, it was too much bother getting everything set up Just So. I wanted something that would work and had undergone thorough testing with minimal effort on my part. If I want to tinker with something, I want it to be more interesting than a WM config file.
My suggestion for a cola replacement would be soda water. I do a wedge of lime in soda and it’s chef’s kiss. Might take some getting used to the lack of sugar, but coke is sickly sweet to me now and I feel a lot better not consuming 60g of sugar in a bottle.
Moving to Linux sounds cool and is cool until you realize 2 things, one, you can fuck yourself in ways you didn’t know possible.
2, windows is dominant and you will lose access to a fair portion of games immediately upon switching.
Unless you really need to lower background bloat, develop code, or got something vehemently against windows, its not worth the swap for 90%+ of the population, you will go back.
I didn’t mind the learning curve, realizing the sheer amount of programs and games that have no development plan for Linux was what made me swap back.
Gaming has come a long way now in Linux with steam and proton, most games are playable. You can check out protondb to see what games don’t work, but it’s amazing compared to even a few years ago.
That teaches you to not be an idiot and think before you do.
Almost my entire library plays on Linux just fine. Games made for Windows can often run on Linux with the right setup, so don’t be discouraged by the lack of plans for Linux develipment. Gaming on Linux has come a huge way the past few years really. Especially with DXVK, and with Valve getting into Linux gaming developing Proton and nagging Nvidia to fix their drivers. Most stuff nowadays works out of the box with Proton or Lutris, which both provide 1 button-press installments.
I only have a minimal amount of games left that run Windows only and that’s not even because the games can’t, but because some of the mods I run can’t. Most notoriously ENB because it’s code is actually full of issues, if that’ll be fixed it would be parsing trough DXVK just fine. Sadly Boris isn’t know for his great reactions to anything that’s even slightly critical about his work so I doubt it’ll get fixed 🥲.
That’s why whatever you need to do that requires windows can be done in a VM. It’s my plan for when I inevitably move to Linux. As to how I get the OS files, well, I am not allowed to share that information because copyright.
Steam OS to me is almost perfect, the only thing it can’t do for me is install printers easily, otherwise it would replace windows for me everywhere. I use Rasbian otherwise 😄
And I wish flavor water was more popular instead of soda. And not Vitamin Water, I mean just water lightly flavored and not sugar with water added.
I have been trying to get into Linux for a decade. I constantly install distro’s and I truly don’t see the appeal. However, I received a copy of windows XP professional back in the early 2000s, and I haven’t had to pay for windows since, so I may have a bias—but I 100% prefer it.
There are some definite pro’s and con’s, but I feel the cons outweigh any benefit of Linux unless you already know what distro you’re going to use, the purpose for which you’re installing that distro, a good understanding of how the repository works, and how to use google.
Windows -> GNU/Linux
KDE/Gnome -> JWM
TV -> Reading books
Twitter -> Fediverse
Coke/Cola -> Tea/infusion
Amazon -> Local bookshop
Amazon needs a bit more than bookshops to replace it. Need a whole shopping mall
Thankfully for things other than books (and maybe also for books), a lot of companies offer two day shipping now. Sometimes there’s an order minimum for that but I find that most of the time my purchase exceeds the order minimum anyway.
A shopping mall and a dumpster full of worthless crap, but you often can’t tell if you’re looking at an item from the shopping mall or the dumpster.
People hate KDE? I’ll check out JWM, but KDE is incredible.
Both KDE and Gnome can be seen as pretty bloated. They come pre-packaged with a lot of programs and tools that sit around unused, possibly even having corresponding daemons running for no reason.
For someone who doesn’t want to think about their computer, and just want to know it’s prepared for anything, they may want that. But if they left windows/mac to have a smaller, simpler OS that isn’t wasting CPU cycles or disk space on superfluous stuff, then KDE/Gnome might not suit them.
Edit: that said, I’ve heard of a lot of alternative DEs/WMs, but I’ve never heard of JWM. I’ve heard good things about Budgie, might also check that out.
I always love the Linux communities obsession with bloat.
The definition for it is so fluid its almost useless anymore. “Neovim is bloated!” “systemd is bloated and slow”
(This isn’t a jab at you btw. It’s a commentary on silly Linuxisms)
Wut
Nah but seriously, they’re not interchangeable. A Coke replacement would be another cola.
i’m an absolute cola addict and unfortunately nothing else scratches the same itch for me. i am a fan of iced tea though
It’s the fizz. I love iced tea, hot tea, and a variety of other drinks. But I was a huge soda fiend.
I switched to sparkling water and HATED it for like 6 months. Now I’ll drink more of it than I was drinking soda.
I still have cola mixed with alcohol, but that’s it.
It’s the fizz. I love iced tea, hot tea, and a variety of other drinks. But I was a huge soda fiend.
I switched to sparkling water and HATED it for like 6 months. Now I’ll drink more of it than I was drinking soda.
I still have cola mixed with alcohol, but that’s it.
+1
Reddit -> Lemmy
I’m downvoting you simply for suggesting an alternative to Coca Cola.
Good day.
Could’ve been worse, could’ve said Pepsi
shudders
All soda is basically addictive poison. I still drink it occasionally (addictive), but I’m always mad at myself for it.
I decided long ago that I’ll only drink soda with alcohol. Since then I mainly do ginger ale, and usually a can every week or two.
Canada Dry for the win!
I decided long ago that I’ll only drink soda with alcohol. Since then I mainly do ginger ale, and usually a can every week or two.
Why the KDE hate?
They’re using a window manager over a full DE, so it’s likely the usual case of preferring minimalism to the very complete desktop environment (which many consider bloated). I’m a window manager person myself, but I’ve been giving KDE a good honest try for the past couple of weeks. It’s definitely very nice if you want the full DE experience.
I went the WM route for a while. At a certain point, it was too much bother getting everything set up Just So. I wanted something that would work and had undergone thorough testing with minimal effort on my part. If I want to tinker with something, I want it to be more interesting than a WM config file.
lmfao the 10 downvotes
Some people hate books.
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My suggestion for a cola replacement would be soda water. I do a wedge of lime in soda and it’s chef’s kiss. Might take some getting used to the lack of sugar, but coke is sickly sweet to me now and I feel a lot better not consuming 60g of sugar in a bottle.
They sell sex toys and bulk sour patch kids at the local bookstore?
Moving to Linux sounds cool and is cool until you realize 2 things, one, you can fuck yourself in ways you didn’t know possible.
2, windows is dominant and you will lose access to a fair portion of games immediately upon switching.
Unless you really need to lower background bloat, develop code, or got something vehemently against windows, its not worth the swap for 90%+ of the population, you will go back.
I didn’t mind the learning curve, realizing the sheer amount of programs and games that have no development plan for Linux was what made me swap back.
Gaming has come a long way now in Linux with steam and proton, most games are playable. You can check out protondb to see what games don’t work, but it’s amazing compared to even a few years ago.
This is pretty much what I was trying to say, but better.
That teaches you to not be an idiot and think before you do.
Almost my entire library plays on Linux just fine. Games made for Windows can often run on Linux with the right setup, so don’t be discouraged by the lack of plans for Linux develipment. Gaming on Linux has come a huge way the past few years really. Especially with DXVK, and with Valve getting into Linux gaming developing Proton and nagging Nvidia to fix their drivers. Most stuff nowadays works out of the box with Proton or Lutris, which both provide 1 button-press installments.
I only have a minimal amount of games left that run Windows only and that’s not even because the games can’t, but because some of the mods I run can’t. Most notoriously ENB because it’s code is actually full of issues, if that’ll be fixed it would be parsing trough DXVK just fine. Sadly Boris isn’t know for his great reactions to anything that’s even slightly critical about his work so I doubt it’ll get fixed 🥲.
That’s why whatever you need to do that requires windows can be done in a VM. It’s my plan for when I inevitably move to Linux. As to how I get the OS files, well, I am not allowed to share that information because copyright.
@demonicbullet 2 is becoming ever less revevant with Steam Proton.
Nowadays, it will basically launch anything bar the anticheat-protected games.
@PeterLinuxer
Steam OS to me is almost perfect, the only thing it can’t do for me is install printers easily, otherwise it would replace windows for me everywhere. I use Rasbian otherwise 😄
And I wish flavor water was more popular instead of soda. And not Vitamin Water, I mean just water lightly flavored and not sugar with water added.
I have been trying to get into Linux for a decade. I constantly install distro’s and I truly don’t see the appeal. However, I received a copy of windows XP professional back in the early 2000s, and I haven’t had to pay for windows since, so I may have a bias—but I 100% prefer it.
There are some definite pro’s and con’s, but I feel the cons outweigh any benefit of Linux unless you already know what distro you’re going to use, the purpose for which you’re installing that distro, a good understanding of how the repository works, and how to use google.
I wouldnt describe wms as an alternative to DEs. As an alternative to KDE/GNOME I think things like cinnamon, xfce or lxqt make more sense