The vaccines are obviously safe, but can someone explain 2021 data from openvaers?

Or maybe we should ignore data in the interest of science.

  • @Belaptir
    2•2 years ago

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    • मुक्तOP
      -1•3 years ago

      The source is a government source and like a typical government source, it strives to maintain main government line throigh those disclsimers.

      Also, number of doses administered is quite public data and coupling that with VAERS data isn’t particularly complicated. If you think it gives a picture favourable to vaccines, maybe find some academic work that proves that? If you can’t find such work in public domain, maybe try doing it yourself?

      • @Belaptir
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        • मुक्तOP
          0•3 years ago

          Uh… mate, you are trying to imply there’s an anomaly, not me. It’s you who should be doing that work. But still…

          I am not implying there is an anomaly. There is an anomaly, I am asking for explanation.

          11514 cases according to vaers (accuracy is discussed because of how the report system works) 193.8M vaccinated people https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations_vacc-total-admin-rate-total

          As I said, this data is available easily.

          That means there’s… well, do the maths, I’m on the phone and don’t have the means to calculate the exact number but 11k cases in 193M people… I’d say is quite low.

          How is this low? Typical safe vaccines have less than 10 adverse events per million doses administered, over long term observation.

          https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html for more info.

          Scroll down the link. This is written on this page: However, recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine and TTS, a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets—which has caused deaths pdf icon[1.4 MB, 33 pages].

          I don’t know what are you expecting to find, the data is there and the issues are quite low, always inside the expected values. I ask you again, where is the anomaly? And what are you trying to demonstrate?

          I am not sure why you are wasting space with these questions. To humour you, I need a clarification from your side:

          • Do you not understand the chart in the opening post?
          • Or you don’t see how data for 2021 is anomalous?
          • Or you don’t understand what the word anomaly means?

          Which one is it?

          EDIT : typos, grammar fixes

          • @Belaptir
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            • मुक्तOP
              -1•3 years ago

              The amount of spoonfeeding you need is an anomaly in itself. Here, definition of the word from :

              a·nom·a·ly (ə-nŏm′ə-lē)
              n. pl. a·nom·a·lies

              1. Deviation or departure from the normal or common order, form, or rule.
              2. One that is peculiar, irregular, abnormal, or difficult to classify: “Both men are anomalies: they have … likable personalities but each has made his reputation as a heavy” (David Pauly).
              3. Astronomy The angular deviation, as observed from the sun, of a planet from its perihelion.

              Now check the graph again.

              • @Belaptir
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                • @sexy_peach@feddit.de
                  1•3 years ago

                  They obviously are a bad faith actor, so many replies and they weren’t even willing to make a proper claim.

                  • @Belaptir
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                  • मुक्तOP
                    -1•3 years ago

                    The claim is simple enough : there is a chart summarizing some data where one value doesn’t fit the pattern. An anomaly. The reason for its existence is sought.

                    I agree with you that the issue is with faith. A rational mind wouldn’t jump so many hoops to deny the existence of anomaly as some of the folks here.

                    EDIT : slight altering of sentences for clarity; fixed typos.

                • मुक्तOP
                  1•3 years ago

                  How many cases did the vaccines cause before this year? What was the pre COVID value of X?

                  • @Belaptir
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