The vaccines are obviously safe, but can someone explain 2021 data from openvaers?

Or maybe we should ignore data in the interest of science.

    • मुक्तOP
      12·
      3 years ago

      The amount of spoonfeeding you need is an anomaly in itself. Here, definition of the word from :

      a·nom·a·ly (ə-nŏm′ə-lē)
      n. pl. a·nom·a·lies

      1. Deviation or departure from the normal or common order, form, or rule.
      2. One that is peculiar, irregular, abnormal, or difficult to classify: “Both men are anomalies: they have … likable personalities but each has made his reputation as a heavy” (David Pauly).
      3. Astronomy The angular deviation, as observed from the sun, of a planet from its perihelion.

      Now check the graph again.

        • मुक्तOP
          1·
          3 years ago

          How many cases did the vaccines cause before this year? What was the pre COVID value of X?

            • मुक्तOP
              1·
              3 years ago

              And you fail to explain every time why should that matter when the data being analyzed is aggregate of all vaccines.

              What exactly is different about covid vaccines? Why should they be seggregated from other vaccines for your purposes?

                • मुक्तOP
                  13·
                  3 years ago

                  Different vaccines, different reactions.

                  How is this a good argument?
                  Every vaccine is a different vaccine when it is first developed. Has a different reaction. You appear to be saying the same thing about covid vaccines.

                  Since each vaccine is different and has different reaction, vaccines are tested over years, sometimes decades, before they are labelled safe. I recall reading about a vaccine which was found to be causing fatal side effects after 27 years of examining, and officially stopped only after that.

                  Since mRNA is an untested technology, a rational mind would ask more questions about it, not less. Seek answers. To accept it on basis of faith without due testing, due questioning, and due skeptical thought is textbook example of cult behaviour.

                  • sexy_peach@feddit.de
                    11·
                    3 years ago

                    We aren’t against asking more questions. Especially people in the field should totally investigate if the vaccines are safe. They currently think that they are safe though, so that’s my opinion as well.

        • sexy_peach@feddit.de
          21·
          3 years ago

          They obviously are a bad faith actor, so many replies and they weren’t even willing to make a proper claim.

            • मुक्तOP
              12·
              3 years ago

              So you are here not to discuss the data but to do your prejudiced advocacy of vaccines, regardless of what your actual findings are. How are your own actions, not in bad faith?

                • मुक्तOP
                  11·
                  3 years ago

                  Your claim that there is no anomaly amounts to claiming that the data of 2021 is in line with other data in the chart. Even a 13 year old can see that that is not the case just by looking at the chart.

                  I even posted dictionary definition of the word anomaly, but it seems many have lost the ability to understand from that and somehow faith becomes the central issue.

                  Is medical science a religion now?

          • मुक्तOP
            12·
            3 years ago

            The claim is simple enough : there is a chart summarizing some data where one value doesn’t fit the pattern. An anomaly. The reason for its existence is sought.

            I agree with you that the issue is with faith. A rational mind wouldn’t jump so many hoops to deny the existence of anomaly as some of the folks here.

            EDIT : slight altering of sentences for clarity; fixed typos.

              • मुक्तOP
                1·
                3 years ago

                I’d like to see just one “rebuttal” that makes sense or even rationally holds together.

                I am yet to prove anything either way, and this must have been clear to anyone interacting in good faith. I could even refer you to dictionary definition of proof, but your capacity to benefit from that exercise is questionable.

                  • मुक्तOP
                    13·
                    3 years ago

                    You keep on saying “flawed data.” “Flawed data.” Like it will magically make things good.

                    VAERS data has been used to detect unsafe vaccines since ages. No new factor lowering quality of data has been reported for current vaccines. There is no inherent reason to believe that VAERS data is not pointing in the right direction, except the fact that official line is to be reluctant to criticize any COVID vaccine for any reason.

                    If you can’t find good arguments, just say so.