Hi. So the weirdest, most annoying argument I’ve had just happened. Some alt-righter’s logic was “Well, if I use this obscene word a lot, then i’m using it liberally, and if enough people hear it, then thAt’s PRoGREssive” Dafuq crack are you smoking bro? Using hate speech/profanities/obscenities is neither liberal or progressive. Am I wrong? Explain this warped logic to me? Chuds are quite illogical. Also, I’m a bit buzzed and I can make more sense than a right-wing chud.
The guy messaged me back, and said I hate african americans and gays, that’s why I am intolerant of his hate speech. Said I will never be as “liberal, progressive and inclusive as he is”, told me to get my “biases and prejudice in check” and also told me to “check my privilege”. Guy’s off the deep end.
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are you white?
i hope this should be irrelevant, i like it better if we discuss ideas instead of pointing finger at who are who … there might be a flaw in my approach ?
wrong
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Yes, why?
yikes
I’m doing my damnedest to be anti-racist, because the world is hurting and needs positivity and kindness right now. We can’t all be yelling profanities, or slurs at people, when we should be building each other up, not tearing each other down. It breaks my fucking heart that the world is in the state it’s in.
educate yourself
I am. I’m reading books on anti-racism, and books by trans authors, black authors, etc.
even with good literature white people can’t learn, they really are a lost cause 😔
I think the problem is, people aren’t willing to understand a different viewpoint from their own, but if we understood what the other person’s been through, we’d be more open to understanding their viewpoint.
Are you suggesting only white people are racist and bigoted? I have no idea where you reside, but here in France, racism and bigotry is not just a white thing. It used to be more so a few decades back when there was a stronger revolutionary antiracist movement.
Also, i didn’t downvote because i agree with your sentiment that whiteness is hard to dismantle, but i should still point out that your comment is an essentialist bigoted argument. Sure it’s aimed at white people so it’s not racist: anti-white resentment is a thing, but there is no structural racism against white people.
However, essentialist constructs is precisely what we’re trying to dismantle in the cis-hetero patriarchal, white-supremacist capitalist society. I agree to struggle by any means necessary, but producing new identity boxes to stuff people in by force is not struggling against oppression, it’s in fact very much reinforcing oppression.
We need more radical politics. Let’s go to the roots of oppression. Goodthinking liberal “who’s more oppressed” game of identity politics is not intersectionality, as intersectionality is precisely about recognizing that oppression is neither a binary nor a linear measure, but rather an intricate chaos of interfering factors.
Intersectionality is acknowledging that whatever oppresses you and me right now, only by struggling together we can dismantle all systems of domination. Or put another way:
Please try to assume good faith from the original poster next time. It’s ok to ask tough questions, but don’t automatically assume bad faith from someone asking questions themself.
Greetings from a fellow (white) enby!