I have been running lineageOS on my OnePlus 2. I liked it, but Lineage has stopped supporting my phone. There are two options that I have been able to find as replacements - postmarketOS and /e/OS. Any thoughts on those or other recommendation? Anything that gets security updates, is open source, and is functional meets my needs.

  • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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    I would like to point out that the term he used before making the edit was pretty obnoxious and targeted towards Indians, exatly how it is done regularly on 4chan. Can the comment be reviewed or showed again, before the edit?

    I do not like to mess around with such accusations, and I am sure you know that considering my history.

    In the below comment he even validates his earlier used terms using the sentence:

    I don’t care if you’re Indian or twelve. You shouldn’t pack spyware into my ROMs and know what you’re doing is all I’m saying.

    I am an Indian. Who is packing spyware into his ROMs, most of which are made by Indians and are available on XDA as LineageOS tweaks or variations?

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      Sorry I didnt notice before that he edited the comment, and unfortunately we dont have any edit history stored in Lemmy. Anyway, when you see a rule violation (eg racism), then you should report it to the admins/mods and have them take care of it. Attacking another user is also a rule violation (rule 2), and is just gonna lead to more trouble.

      Edit: also I suggest that both of you stop arguing, because it is not going anywhere. Just accept that you disagree, and ignore each other. @Helix@feddit.de @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml

      • Helix
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        also I suggest that both of you stop arguing, because it is not going anywhere. Just accept that you disagree, and ignore each other.

        Good idea, sorry.

      • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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        The only person I constantly see attacking and evidently justifying his racist phrasing is this fellow, not me. I have a track record of being vigilant and putting myself on the frontlines for Lemmy, and the only thing I have to gain is the existence of a non obnoxious reddit alternative for everyone, that respects darknet anonymous proxy access.

        I made a mistake of not screenshotting the exact phrase, and he is taking advantage of it openly. I see it as important to be vigilant about racism towards all the major factions of society, not just the LGBT+, the Jews, Blacks, Muslims and so on. Indians are PoCs and they face their fair share of racism, and there are not enough Indians on the internet to point it out. Atleast I have not seen another active Indian on Lemmy yet, as the couple users on c/india are dormant now.

        I would also like to make my position clear once again that I do not accuse users of such serious issues randomly. When I do, it will be rare and it will be worth looking into.

        • @nutomicA
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          I appreciate that you try to fight against racism and discrimination. That isnt the problem, the problem is how you are doing it. You have to understand, most people in Europe dont hate nonwhite people (except for a small, vocal minority). The racism here is much more subtle than that, and people dont even realize that their beliefs and worldviews are racist. I know because I used to hold such beliefs as well (its almost impossible to avoid because the media really misrepresents things).

          I think the best way to fight against this racism is with education. If people in the west could understand how people in the global south are being exploited and oppressed by imperialism, they would change their beliefs. Another thing is that many people view racism as something like person A saying a bad word to person B, but thats only a minor part of it. I would say the main aspect of racism is the economic relationship between imperialist and neocolonial countries (again, exploitation and imperialism).

          • Helix 🧬
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            The racism here is much more subtle than that, and people dont even realize that their beliefs and worldviews are racist. I know because I used to hold such beliefs as well (its almost impossible to avoid because the media really misrepresents things).

            I think the best way to fight against this racism is with education. If people in the west could understand how people in the global south are being exploited and oppressed by imperialism, they would change their beliefs.

            Well said. If anything came from that discussion, it’s that statement right there. I believe the same thing and I sometimes also find out I was being racist because I believed stereotypes or made inappropriate jokes.

          • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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            I used to hold some questionable views as well, because I used to be an edgy teenager, and the whole internet culture is pretty messed up, to say the least, as you venture into the darker and secluded corners. However, things change, and identifying and calling out these things is essential.

            The issue is, racism is like a baby Pokémon. It evolves with time, with newer crop of users and events that happen around us (like colonialisation et al). So the neocolonial and socio-economic status parts you say are not the elements themselves, but the end product manifestation of what starts as these expresssions that travel through various medium in society, normalising racism in the first place, planting the seeds in society to make way for the governance to assume that if the masses are okay with it, this must be the culture and the governments and giant entities adapt to it.

            Bad words or weird hand or object expressions is simply a way to modify the grammar that the society uses daily, and develop behavioural cues with them. This is a crucial part of Theory of Computation, for example in Computer Science, which teaches how new grammar can be created.

            Racism also happens to be a way to start wars, as example, by manufacturing consent which we see commonly. That is done if the masses are allowed and encouraged to do this.

            Education and awareness can only go so far. If the other party is unwilling to have a dialogue, and doubles down on their doings that they think is done out of “free will” in a “free society”, then how will education work? The only theoretical options left are to be civil and oppose, or be uncivil and oppose.

            • DessalinesA
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              I agree and I appreciate your efforts to stop bigotry in its tracks, but we must always try to be civil when doing so.

              Also @nutomic@lemmy.ml and I would much rather spend time coding, than moderating, so it’d be helpful if yall would either just not engage with each other, ( or block each other as that will be released within 2 weeks ), or ping other moderators if you feel that you can’t resolve conflicts between yourselves.

            • @nutomicA
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              I think there is a difference between corporate social media and the fediverse that you should keep in mind here. The former dont care about racism etc because hostility actually generates more “engagement” and advertising money, plus the site owners will never actually see it. But on the fediverse its very different, because instances are run by volunteers in their free time, who want to have a site that they enjoy using. So being civil will go a lot further here (it definitely does on lemmy.ml). For that reason, your warning still stands.

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      I would like to point out that the term he used before making the edit was pretty obnoxious and targeted towards Indians

      I edited ‘usually’ into ‘often’, as far as I remember. I myself can’t show the history.

      I am an Indian.

      Nobody cares. Even if I said 12yo Indians, that’d still be obvious hyperbole and not racism, because I didn’t use ‘pajeet’ or other racist words. I also didn’t insinuate that only Indians do this.

      It’s just like if I said CSGO is full of 16yo German cheaters. Which incidentally is true and ruins the game for many people, including Germans. If you cared about understanding my comment you wouldn’t have thought it was racist.

      • @TheAnonymouseJoker
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        No, you did not. You are a liar, and I would not have pointed that out if you did just that. Your comment was 2 sentences long, not a one liner. You are simply taking advantage of me not screenshotting your exact phrasing, and Lemmy has no comment scrapers like reddit does. And the admin unfortunately does not see racism because he does not know how racism against Indians work, because he is a foreigner.

        • Helix 🧬
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          And the admin unfortunately does not see racism because he does not know how racism against Indians work, because he is a foreigner.

          Yeah because magically only targets of racism know how racism works. You even contradict yourself there as that’d mean I myself couldn’t be racist because I wouldn’t know how.