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I know that there are problems with trash including products marketed as flushable that aren’t, but I’ve never heard talk of too much actual toilet paper (even the super plush stuff) outside of personal lines like the ones that connect your house to the municipal sewer or septic tank. For reference I live in the US where bidets are a novelty. I work along side sewage conveyance folks and am curious to prevent future issues. Do you know of anywhere where low flow has specifically caused a problem that could be a cautionary tale?


There isn’t a danger of breaking the system by not using enough water. The amount of water we use to flush a toilet is enough to convey feces to a treatment plant. We get fat clogs because fats, oils, and grease (FOG) don’t mix with water, float, and can cling to the walls (especially cold walls where FOG solidifies) of pipes. That’s why sewer organizations try to get people not to send FOG down the drain and why they don’t say ‘just make sure you rinse it down the sink real good.’

edit: Also, yes perfect wastewater treatment would put water right back to the source, but almost every system just sends it downhill to the nearest, largest body of water. Then we wait for nature to cycle it back up hill for us. In many places use is outpacing natural renewal and that is why water conservation is critical in those areas.

In areas with more water than they need it is still important to the climate change to reduce water use. Both making drinking water and processing wastewater take huge amounts of energy. Wastewater treatment alone is the number one consumer of energy, and I live in a populated area with a strong industrial sector. Saving water saves carbon too.


Is luxury ok occasionally? Sure, if a thing brings you happiness it has value and hopefully people can make a choice if that happiness is worth the real cost of the luxury. I don’t think the solution to most of the really big problems is for people to give up the small pleasures in their lives. It is demoralizing and alienating to tell people (or yourself) that they are failing because they aren’t perfect. For the record, I don’t personally like baths, so that isn’t just me rationalizing my bad behavior.

I tried a quick search for any data on how much water is wasted on baths (in the US) and didn’t find good info. Is this really a problem? Yes baths use a fair bit of water each, but what is the total? Is it worth the huge political fight that will come with it? One thing I could find is that in the US daily usage on lawns and gardens is 15% or about 48 gal per household. The average bath tub is 35 gallons. One bath a day per household with a gray water reuse system would cover a decent fraction of irrigation use and result in no additional waste (with the flawed assumptions that water use is spread evenly by household, and that we should be using that much water on grass).

I feel like anything looking at an individual level misses the mark though. I don’t think this is a problem we can pick at the edges of and solve. We waste water in leaky delivery infrastructure; we waste water by mixing storm, gray, and black water; and then we take our partially cleaned water and put it into the biggest down slope waterbody we can find (instead of recharging the source). That’s not even touching on industrial uses. Yes, we all should address our own uses, but a lot of the problem is just baked into the system and only in the reach of collective action and significant investement.

If you want to get involved find your local water supplier and wastewater managing entities and follow what they’re doing. Push them to do better at public meetings and planning sessions. You don’t need to have the answers, just show them that there is a call from the community to be innovative, push big ideas, and make real change.


what limitations does it have

None, you’re right. I have no idea what I did wrong when I tried it before.


I would character limit rather than time limit. The idea being fair space for response. If someone’s typing speed is 2 times faster than the other, the faster typer effectively would have twice the voice if you time limit.


I’m not sure I understand. Do you want a default sort (eg Hot) that automatically turns on when you turn any other option off? Personally I would rather have to chose the sort I want than unselecting what I don’t want.


I understand that you’re saying this tongue in cheek, but this is basically a stance saying that if a person doesn’t have the knowledge that I think they should they shouldn’t join this community.

Making a tool easier to use isn’t wasted effort, it’s inclusion. That is especially true if we’re talking about well over half the population. Conversely, we could hoard our knowledge and try to ignore or look down on people with less.


I access Lemmy almost entirely through Lemmur. Generally everything works super smoothly for my use case (Thank you!), but there are some limitations (eg quoting when responding to comments). Could I just go to the source? Yep. Will I? Almost never. I am guessing the more you can work with the app folks (I am just guessing that they are different people) to make all of your hard work easy to package the easier it would be for a newbie to pick it up.


Sketchy framing of the facts, purposely skewed sampling, and the science (which I would just call routine lab analysis for any food product) just shows that plants aren’t animals.

It reads as a jab at plant based foods. Eventually they get to ‘one isn’t better than the other’, but they lead with what is good in meat that isn’t found in plants. They also use grass fed beef as their standard for meat when it only makes up 5% of the beef in the US (https://extension.psu.edu/grass-fed-beef-production).

Tv ad version - Cue scary music and dramatic voice over Be careful when you eat plant based foods. Who knows if they can support a heathy diet. fine print scrolling the bottom: Plant based foods are totally fine, we know what’s in them and they have everything you need. Claims made by WSGWPWELM have not been evaluated by the FDA. Brought to you by the We’re Starting to Get Worried People Will Eat Less Meat Council of America.


This article agrees with every other article helping people who are so deep in an issue that they don’t give room for someone who knows less or who has different values.

Bottom line: How do I convince person X to take action Y? Step one, build a relationship not based on them agreeing with you. Step two, talk about things of mutual interest which may or may not let you convince them of anything. Third step (advanced users only), you learn something.


Agreed, it would have to be the same farm in the next season or reclaimed space and the whole farming/processing/delivery system would also have to be carbon neutral/negative.


Ah, bad phrasing on my part. By “more” I meant planting as much barley as you used to replace it like for like.


It’s just the most common grain in traditional beer. I think because of it’s potential to have enzymes that cut long carbohydrates into simple (fermentable) sugars. I’m don’t know what’s most carbon friendly.


+1 to Velocity Raptor. It was fun to play even if they had just made up the physics.


Brewing beer is only carbon neutral if you plant more barley and grow it carbon neutrally. Just like burning fossil fuels is carbon neutral if you wait long enough for enough plants to grow, die, and get buried in underground reserves.

I only mention it as a technical point (that I think you already know) for other folks scrolling through because people automatically assume wood and other plant products are carbon neutral (or a sink) because it comes from plants, but if the cycle isn’t completed it becomes a source.


There most definitely are byproducts. Like you say you couldn’t grow a flower without creating byproducts. I think the critical thing would be not whether there are byproducts, but is this more desirable than using first generation petroleum products. That would take full carbon accounting, a chemical comparison of both systems, and analysis of impacts on the larger world including human consequences/benefits.


Tesla Valve Explained With Fire

A fun watch of propane going either way through a Tesla valve and being ignited…


I never joined reddit in the first place, so lemmy isn’t an alternative for me unlike the other posts so far. I just liked the setup and the low privacy admittance fee.


Hard to say :) Some text was posted, but we don’t know what the “this” is. Did it instantly teleport the reader into the Cybersphere ™? It doesn’t seem to have worked for me. Did it make me think about the most appropriate order of ?s and !s in an extended interrobang? Yes, and I am in camp ? before !.


My vaccine card only has my name (not even my full legal name) and dates of vaccines on it. Is that different in different places? Google already has those from any google user who arranged their vaccination on the internet.

The bigger new invasion that I see here is that they will be able to see when, where, and who you share your card with.

Also, in the article they promise your data won’t be used for ads, so no need to worry ;)


Sounds cool, but I get a bad gateway error from the link. Am I the only one?


Yumm sauce

This is a copycat recipe from a restaurant. They serve it on top of rice, beans, olives, cilantro, and green onions. We put it on anything that needs a little something extra and change up the spices to match. It is supposed to be thick like a cheese sauce, but it tastes like its own thing. Anyways:…

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The large flowered collomia (Collomia grandiflora) is just starting to bloom around me. They are annual and have cool blue pollen (typically pollen is yellow). You can see the pollen on the anthers at the center of each flower. …

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Anti to Pro

Sometimes defining things by what they aren’t creates a lot of ambiguity. As in what do you actually want if not consumerism. So, fellow anti-consumerists, what do you value that is in opposition to consumerism? I am for (pro) the respectful use of resources. We need to give back at least what we ta…


Question about wave/particles interacting

Does it make sense to ask: How hard does a photon hit an object? …


This one is meadow-foam (Limnanthes douglasii). It’s annual that is native to prairies of the west coast of North America. Smells great, looks cool, and bugs like it. Comercially, similar plants are grown for the oil from their seeds. The seeds off this one will just fall where they want to sprout u…

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Wasting drinking water to move sewage

In the usual sanitary sewer system we use drinking water to move waste through pipes towards resource recovery plants (wastewater treatment plants). Across the US the infrastructure is in disrepair and needs a lot of attention, so getting a wasteful system running right is going to take a huge inves…


For me it is my phacelia (Phacelia tanacetifolia) blooming. I throw some seed down wherever I don’t have other plans because the bugs love the flowers? What have you got going?..

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Mid level knowledge

It is easy to find articles and guides designed for laypeople. If you know the right keyword, it is just as easy to find professional/expert level papers and articles. I have noticed that this is the case across fields. Is that what other folks experience? Where do you go for information when laypeo…