Joe Bidet
Random Joe, or should I say… GNU/Joe
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discrimination doesnt start with “suggesting bad things about a group of people”, it starts by creating such a group of people, and enforcing it, culturally, politically, socially and at every level (including by jokes, memes, etc.). then at some point in history when society will be tense enough and on the verge of collapse, there will always be someone to suggest that this virtual “group of people” is the cause of… you know… everything bad.
but discrimination starts way way earlier. when making “groups of people” based on things they didn’t chose, and that actually shouldn’t matter so much…
I find it always stimulating to exchange views in between actors of good faith. I am not trying to change your opinion here, rather sharing my own, and feelings and experience.
My opinion here is not that “it can escalate to something worse”, but rather that it is parf of something already bad, very present and casually ingrained in many people’s head, that needs careful attention to not casually reproduce…
somehow it is already “worse”. ie. everybody born in a racist society, who is not born as an object of this racism is bound to be at least partly racist themselves, and/or part of that problem by being complacent and/or pretending that there is no problem at all… it should not be shameful to acknowledge that, as long as people are in good faith and open to introspection.
Also it takes anyone a while to see such things when they are very much used to it… To look back and say “oops, yeah maybe that was a mistake” in retrospect is part of it… I am not saying you should, it’s just how it happened to me.
I understand your point of view… I hear that your intention wasnt to provoke or to encourage hatred.
Yet, the very notion that there would be “races” here is err… a very definition of “racism” (ie. who sees things according to supposed “races”)… there is one race, the Human kind… the rest is physical differences.
So somehow, inevitably, making jokes based on these physical differences, on sorting people (even jokingly) according to them (especially implying that there would be a “good” configuration for the, and another that would remind a state that everyone has experience, the last step of a cube where “omg omg i am almost there!!!” feeling so good as something that inevitably needs fixing…) is further re-inforcing discriminatory mechanisms.
Imagine that you would see an image that would make you say “there are 4 skinnies and 4 fatties on that (virtual) picture” -> if your conception of the world, if your way of looking at things is to see “skinnies” on one side, and “fatties” on the other, if you call them that and sort them according to that, well it’s a discrimination based on physicail aspects… isn’t it?
whether it bears a name (“fatism”?) or not doesnt matter so much as how it is a way of looking at people and at the world, that in turns can bring about further simplifications, de-humanization (if someone is “a fatty” or “a xxxx” they often are less than just “a person”), discriminations, and as history showed, often violence…
Does it make any sense to you?
Well …
- the image is based on noticing these people’s skin color in the first place, and making a joke out of them;
- the analogy with the Rubik’s Cube means that there is something to “solve” there;
- the last click in the Rubik’s Cube is a “perfect” state.
So this image, due to people’s skin color, is one step away from a perfect state, where white people are with white people, black people with black people, etc… and should be “solved”?
How can this be read otherwise? (honest question)
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