So if you try to go to the Party of Communists USA website, you get a relatively short document by former members accusing the part of really bad stuff like reporting members to bosses and defending pedophiles.
Said members split and formed the American Council of Bolsheviks. As the Party of Communists USA is essentially dead due to these shenanigans, is the new organization worth working with? And can anybody give any perspective about this whole controversy?
The American Council of Bolsheviks sounds like a larp or a Fed op , what a terrible name.
Afaik there was a hack and some wreckers locked the actual PCUSA out of their website and made sure that the first thing people see when you google them are these made up accusations. This kind of thing is to be expected. Any group or individual that becomes threatening enough to the system will be smeared in the same way. And there are people on the left who help the feds in these Cointelpro activities because they benefit from instigating splits and conflicts which then shut out anti-imperialists in order to keep their status as “thought leaders” of the left while staying in the good graces of the liberal establishment.
They had 3 splits in one year.
From what I can tell it’s the same trick the state used on Redneck Revolt - a bunch of insiders accuse the leadership of sexual-based offenses, nothing is proven but it stokes enough controversy that the party implodes, and these “whistleblowers” lead a walk out to start a new party that never goes anywhere and really just exists to be a thorn in the side of the original party.
A few years back the state tried this tactic on them when they had “other comrades” accuse Comrade Helali of sexual-based offenses. Comrade FinBol has also received such accusations. Seeing a pattern here?
I don’t believe these accusations personally. The state has used that play far too many times in recent years. I would also not associate with this council of Bolsheviks either. As usual, this is my opinion, one should do their own research.
Idk anything about whoever Helali is but that FinBol stuff was legit and the screenshots were pretty bad.
Christopher Helali, he’s a high-ranking member of PCUSA. When they attempted to bring politics to the masses they ran him for congress in 2020 I believe and the mainstream media tried this tactic on him. Suddenly anarchistic adventurists and imperialist soldiers who worked with him in the past (he “served” in the US in northern Syria) came out of the woodwork to call him everything from an asshole to a rapist when he wanted to platform Marxist politics in the US.
I wasn’t aware FinBol’s had screenshots. Do you happen to have any links? FinBol’s case doesn’t match the same pattern as the other 2 as there were no group of “insiders” with him, I simply threw him in there because he too is a leftist who was accused of sexual-based crimes and as from what I understood he was innocent.
It’s not assault in Finnish Bolshevik’s case, but… see the last item in this section for context
Is there any evidence the other person was a minor? Is it referenced anywhere besides the person in the chat referencing it? It didn’t show in either links in Dessalines’ github. I don’t want to judge others’ based on their fetishes, I’m only concerned if it was with a minor or not.
No, I don’t know who the other person is. Maybe dessalines or whoever committed the entry to the repo knows
Fair enough. I’ll do some research and see if I can get a better understanding of the situation
It at the very least is very lacking in judgement, opsec, etc to engage in erotic roleplaying under your communist alias among anonymous other persons you’ve only met online. If you want to do erotic roleplay stuff with whatever your fetishes are probably best to do it outside of communist spaces in dedicated spaces for that kind of thing or to do so only with people you know in real life already and again still not in communist online spaces which should not be involved in that kind of personal uhhh activities.
So by itself that seems a bad thing to do. Even if it was the most mundane and vanilla thing and not cnc stuff, sexual stuff like that doesn’t belong in communist spaces.
That’s a very good point
Christopher Helali literally embezzled money from the IWW and fought for “Rojava.”
Well considering the IWW is a trotskyist org and Rojava is/was an anarchist “space” or whatever they prefer to call a country, I would chalk this up to simply “radlibs radlibbing radlibs”, which highlights the absolute necessity of based organizing around the most revolutionary theory which is Marxism. The fact that the leadership of the party considers present day Helali trustworthy as a high-ranking member presumes he has grown much since then.
“Rojava” is funded and trained by the U.S. military and has neo-Nazis and fascists in it.
IWW are not Trots.
First I’m hearing of nazis in Rojava, do you have any sources?
The IWW aren’t explicitly Trotskyist but when you analyze their policies it’s clear.
They unite the proletariat under 1 union world wide, Trots aim to do this as well for “global continuous revolution”
They often necessitate dual unionism which effectively shoots the worker in the foot, a key aspect of trotskyist policies.
Since the Russian Revolution they have faded from relevance and now mainly focus on the US and Canada for membership…a fascination with the west to bring about revolution, another tenet of Trotskyism.
Many members I’ve met are anarchist/trotskyists (in USA they are very closely related)
This is why I describe them as Trots.
Helali himself confirmed this.
IWW are anarcho-communist, though have lots of tendencies; they are not Trots.
It doesn’t matter what you call them.
FinBol’s accusations were true though
wat? what’s the story with finbol? im out of the loop on this one
He was found out to be a perv and perved on 16 year old and even defended his actions at first.
Is https://partyofcommunistsusa.org the official one, or https://partyofcommunistsusa.net? Maybe the latter is their new domain
Net is their new one, org got hacked
They did not.
We are https://partyofcommunistsusa.net/ now. The wreckers at ‘american council of bolsheviks’, who support fascist Ukraine, stole our old website when they couldn’t get their way.
I believe the wreckers that split claim part of it was because PCUSA supports a Russia too much, so yeah, probably feds.
They are not wreckers; they are victims.
Why do you feel the need to support anyone who opposes PCUSA? I get that you may have had experiences of our members being needlessly rude to you on the internet, and I have no reason to doubt you. But why do you do the same in the opposite direction to Lemmygrad comrades who have done nothing to you? I wouldn’t support Ukranazi wreckers at CPUSA so please don’t to such to us.
There are no Ukranazi wreckers at CPUSA; the general atmosphere in the party is that Ukraine is fascist.
That’s not what I meant. I mean the “American council of Bolsheviks” split from PCUSA and stole their website and videos because PCUSA doesn’t “support Ukraine.” You shouldn’t support them just because they don’t like us.
They were warning others of the fact that the PCUSA are feds and report other communists to federal authorities.
I don’t care what their politics are; that’s not a measure of whether or not they are credible.
Feds often call actual comrades feds. I wouldn’t call them a trustable source.
The GenSec is also a fed.
