• marcuse1w
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    3 years ago

    When it comes to states spying you then there is no safety. The state can always just send someone over to put a gun on your head (or the legal equivalent) and voila, you yourself give them your data.

    And I understand that states are very different in their (perceived) legal integrity, but if I should guess ( no evidence) then all the encryption and safety development benefit criminals most. Also some journalists and dissidents but mostly criminals to do their criminal business and in the whole, if you have the fortune to live in a state that can be mostly trusted I prefer that Police has some lever identity this kind communication. Not in-similar to when Police is allowed to tap your phone (after a judge signed off). Not many people where concerned about that.

    So so in the end I feel the bigger threat are private companies who sell all your data for the highest bidder regards of the bidders intention. And provided you trust Signal, ProtonMail and Tutanota then they definitely reduce the risk there (imho).

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      3 years ago

      Even with a gun to your head you can still make the choice to say “no”. This is always the case - you always have the choice to refuse, you just have to be prepared to live with the consequences.

      I needed to be police vetted for a job and they wanted to know lots of stuff about me, including who I’d slept with in the last five years (becaue, allegedly, this information could be used to blackmail so… Well so why would I tell the rozzers, exactly…? Anyway, getting off my point). I refused to tell them because the people I’d slept with hadn’t given their consent. I was refused the job *shrug

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        3 years ago

        I refused to tell them because the people I’d slept with hadn’t given their consent. I was refused the job

        I wouldn’t give the job to a rapist either. 🙃

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          3 years ago

          To be clear, I meant consent for me to share their love-life with the police!

          You’re a naughty person! But you did make me laugh.

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          3 years ago

          I hope he just made a mistake when typing haha