• SteleTrovilo@beehaw.org
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    2 years ago

    As worded, this would apply to every Turing-complete system that exists, right? Or is it meant to target specific pieces of software - like GPG and Signal and Protonmail and TOR - where the governments don’t have a backdoor?

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    Well, how delightfully vague. A “sophisticated, encrypted communication device” could be just about anything that connects to the internet.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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      2 years ago

      That’s how totalitarian regimes operate, they create vague laws that can then be applied to prosecute whomever is deemed to be a threat to the regime.

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      I think they’d love to outlaw general purpose computing. We can already see a preview of what that looks like with how mobile devices work. You don’t have root privileges on the device, and it’s explicitly locked from you. You are only allowed to install software from the official sources, and this software can be wiped remotely from your device if its deemed inappropriate. This is the future of computing that’s being envisioned. The computer just becomes another appliance as opposed to a general purpose computing machine that you yourself can program.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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          The part I’m worried about is how long it’s going to be possible to buy hardware that’s not locked down. It’s almost impossible to buy a phone that doesn’t need to be hacked to get root nowadays.

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            @yogthos I think we will always have that option. Probably you will only not be able to go for the high end devices while seeking full access to your own device, your own property.

            PS: No wonder why Linux phones are getting a lot of momentum lately.

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          Microsoft is going the way of “controlled computing” by requiring things like TPM and Secure Boot. Once the hardware and OS (Win 11) are used by enough people they can start blocking access to certain features and even online content for any device which doesn’t have Microsoft approved hardware and OS. They tried this way back twenty years ago and the community pushed back enough that they dropped the idea, but now it’s back and stronger than ever.

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    @yogthos if my digital devices, whether online or offline, cannot be encrypted anymore, then I have no use for them. I will get rid of them and won’t buy the next models anymore.

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    1 year ago

    Is it only a matter of time until they scan packets with DPS to find encryption and send the police hit squad to your house

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      Sure and then you use a large language model to generate innocuous messages that have sternographic encoding of your real message. And then they scan for sternography. And then the identify people who talk weirdly. The rabbits hole never ends.

      Making thought and math illegal is just crazy. You’re sabotaging your own people.

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      That’s right, if UK regime can’t read your private communications then off to the salt mines with you.