I want instance eventually like CENSORSHIP FREE where people can say anything, like the voat except no limiters placwd on you and you can SAY ANYTHING whenever you want ans

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    4 years ago

    Most previous Reddit alternatives have quickly turned into extremist communities. And what all of them had in common, was that they wanted to maximize free speech and minimize moderation.

    The Lemmy devs are trying hard to avoid that for this Lemmy instance by sending a strong message of what’s okay and what’s not.
    And I really don’t think, that is a problem. Anyone can host their own instance where they can welcome the extremists with open arms. Or they can join one of the many existing Reddit alternatives. If this one instance is different from all of the rest, that’s the smallest problem.

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      And I really don’t think, that is a problem. Anyone can host their own instance where they can welcome the extremists with open arms.

      That is true. It is a problem with the instance, not the federated system.

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        Well, no one’s forcing you to be here (or in fact to not get banned), if you think there is a problem with how this instance is run.
        Your comments are far off from constructive criticism, because you’re asking them to run the instance in a way that they don’t plan to run it, when there is plenty alternatives for you to go to.

        And for the record, I like the way they moderate this instance. I don’t give a flying fuck about the free speech of someone that wants to state that hurting people is in any way fine. No one needs to hold that political opinion.

        I’m not saying that it’s not fine to ever hurt someone. Self-defense is fine. What I’m saying is that no one needs to be allowed to proclaim that (there’s not exactly a heated debate around whether self-defense is fine or not), especially without differentiation that they mean self-defense and again, not on this instance.
        We don’t need to uphold a perfect maxim on free speech, because yes, if you feel like there was just a misunderstanding, you can create a new account, and because you can discuss that on basically any other platform on this planet.

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          Well, no one’s forcing you to be here

          Of course not. What are you suggesting with that phrase? Are you showing me the door or something?

          Your comments are far off from constructive criticism, because you’re asking them to run the instance in a way that they don’t plan to run it, when there is plenty alternatives for you to go to.

          I think what I’m doing is constructive, and I’m not asking anyone to do anything. You say this as if I am asking for something like a customer would do. Absolutely not. I’m talking about it. Is that not okay for you?

          We don’t need to uphold a perfect maxim on free speech, because yes, if you feel like there was just a misunderstanding, you can create a new account, and because you can discuss that on basically any other platform on this planet.

          This is internet communication. I don’t know you well enough and I can’t see your body language. That’s why I’m not sure how you mean this. Do you mean this literally how it is written?

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      Most previous Reddit alternatives have quickly turned into extremist communities.

      Implying lemmy is not extremist community rofl

      With posts like “Belarus protests are NATO propaganda” on the front-page we kinda joined the “reddit extremist clones” club already.

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        And that’s why it is important to have everyone being able to speak their mind. Person A might find ridiculous what Person B says, and vice versa. But only if they are able to talk to each other can we find at least a bit of common ground and understand each other better. If we think it is the best way to have fully isolated A region and B region, where only people talk to each other who already agree with one another, then we’re heading to a time of hate and eventually war between brethren.