Ukraine admits 'Ghost of Kyiv' fighter pilot is a myth
apnews.com
On social media, the “Ghost of Kyiv” was a military hero, an ace fighter pilot hailed for supposedly shooting down multiple Russian planes. The tales began just days into the war and circulated for months, bolstered by official Ukrainian accounts.
  • B0rodin@lemmygrad.ml
    30·
    3 years ago

    Liberal media has a proud tradition of shameless lying, a sacred ritual of great importance to western “culture”.

    • DankZedong @lemmygrad.mlOP
      31·
      3 years ago

      And it works. Libs on Reddit are still in denial. There are comments like ´You can kill a man but not an idea´ and ´He was probably real but already killed! :(’ Like my brother in Allah, they said he was fake and never even existed. It’s right in the article.

      • B0rodin@lemmygrad.ml
        24·
        3 years ago

        Exactly. It is at the point they willingly indulge in this kind of lying as it buys into their own world view. It is easier for them to stomach a twisted ‘truth’ than actually face reality. They have designed their own world, their own prison, then locked themselves in it and refuse to come out even though they have the key. It is probably this that leads to their aversion to theory. My dad is (unfortunately) a lib, and not only does he refuse to think critically about western MSM and narratives, he flatly denies any information that counteracts those narratives regardless of their sources. Indeed, he is a ‘Ukraine understander’ who knows nothing about Stepan Bandera, nothing about previous Ukrainian actions in Donbass, and nothing about NATO expansion. He labels any and all data that looks ill upon Ukraine as ‘Russian Propaganda’, even if they come from western sources and are dated well before the beginning of action in Ukraine. Similarly, and perhaps most tellingly, when talking about the ‘Tiananmen massacre’, he decided to force me to watch an edited 1 minute clip from the British Bullshit Corporation, and then refused to acknowledge any of the sources I showed him (the usual stuff - the CIA testimony of Gallo, the video of Dejian Hou denying the massacre, the CBS article in which the journalist who was there denied the massacre…). Like, decided that ‘I do not want to continue this conversation’ without even glancing at what I tried to show him, throwing a tantrum and throwing my phone across the room instead. And since then denouncing me as a ‘conspiracy nut’, and making some dumb strawman about how I was apparently saying it was done on a hollywood set (? - I dont know where he got that from given I never mentioned Hollywood). This is now beyond ‘copium’ for most liberals - it is an intentional, premediated, and complete withdrawal from reality in favour of a fantasy that better suits their own idealism.

          • B0rodin@lemmygrad.ml
            5·
            3 years ago

            Tbh, my entire family (myself included) has anger management issues. But given that I am 16, I have an excuse. My parents… less so.

          • sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml
            4·
            3 years ago

            My Chinese warlord family who seek fake refugee in Canada also had similar problems although they claim these problems is highly intolerable when others have it as well. My parents vent all their anger from others on innocent disabled child as solution to their anger problem and then complain why disabled children develop psychological problem from the abuse.

        • DankZedong @lemmygrad.mlOP
          13·
          3 years ago

          I wonder why they do this. For people who claim they are the pinnacle of acceptance and democracy, why not try to look further into theories that support marginalized people and that try to make the world a more equal place? The weirdest libs for me are the ones that say communism only works in theory. Then why not try it? If only 80% works, that sure is better than whatever the fuck we’re doing now, right?

          • B0rodin@lemmygrad.ml
            12·
            3 years ago

            Yes. Even if that claim was true - at least it works in theory, which makes it automatically better than capitalism which neither works in theory nor in practise.

            • Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
              6·
              3 years ago

              Pretty sure libs generally think that “communism only works in theory, but capitalism works in practice”, and point at the US space program or something along those lines as proof. So no, they will not entertain the idea of trying something that “works in theory”.

              Others claim it doesn’t even work in theory.

              • B0rodin@lemmygrad.ml
                4·
                3 years ago

                The US space program was gov funded… it was a communist concept of management of production through the state implemented imperfectly in a capitalist system. It is an example for communism not against it.

                • xxcvzvcxx@lemmygrad.ml
                  2·
                  3 years ago

                  lol USA created NASA precisely because their garbage for profit companies didn’t see space exploration as profitable and so USA was falling ridiculously behind technologically from USSR.

                  It is of great urgency and importance to our country both from consideration of our prestige as a nation as well as military necessity that this challenge [Sputnik] be met by an energetic program of research and development for the conquest of space… It is accordingly proposed that the scientific research be the responsibility of a national civilian agency… NACA is capable, by rapid extension and expansion of its effort, of providing leadership in space technology.

                  Basically if it wasn’t for USSR United States would’ve never bothered with space exploration because it was more profitable for private companies to spend their resources on coming up with new and exciting ways to exploit their workers.

          • sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml
            4·
            3 years ago

            Their solution to inequality and injustice is victim blaming so they will do nothing to enforce human right or equal opportunity.

        • xxcvzvcxx@lemmygrad.ml
          3·
          3 years ago

          fucking r/aviation, which is supposedly a serious sub about aircrafts was riddled with posters of Ghost of Kiyv. You could say maybe the average joe might not understand why Ghost of Kyiv story is bullshit, but aviation nuts on r/aviation? Really?

          You are absolutely right, this is not mere denial. The people who do this know it’s bullshit, they do it anyway. This has a name. It’s called propaganda. All these people are knowingly and deliberately participating in creating a fake alternate reality via propaganda. It’s some real dystopian shit.

      • Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml
        14·
        3 years ago

        It’s willful ignorance, or worse yet denial. It was obvious this shit was made up within days of the first mention, but people really needed to believe that Ukraine had some video game superhero on their side.

  • JucheBot1988@lemmygrad.ml
    25·
    3 years ago

    The funniest thing about the “Ghost of Kiev” story is that it just pointed out how much the rest of the Ukrainian air force sucks.

    I mean, really – one guy has that high a percentage of total kills in the war? Were the other pilots just wanking to Nazi porn all that time?

  • i_must_destroy@lemmygrad.ml
    24·
    3 years ago

    My friend told me about this story like 2 months ago. I told him it was definitely bs. The next day it came out that footage of ‘The Ghost of Kyiv’ was for a video game. I sent him the article and he was pissed 😂

  • DankZedong @lemmygrad.mlOP
    21·
    3 years ago

    Guys I am shocked. Here I am thinking 40 orcs died because of this heroic man. Why would the media lie to us? How can they do that?

    • JucheBot1988@lemmygrad.ml
      11·
      3 years ago

      “Unprecedentedly bold use of misinformation,” as CNN said a couple weeks ago when Joe Biden got caught in the middle of a particularly obvious lie.

        • ksdhf@lemmygrad.ml
          2·
          3 years ago

          Watch in 5yrs time when everyone pretends they knew the truth all along just like they pretend they were always against the invasion of Iraq. The big difference now is everyone immortalised their views on social media so it’s much harder to deny but liberals are great at mental gymnastics so will probably get away with it.