I am stunned by the amount of likes under those tweets that contradict western narratives. BlueAnon will say it’s russian bots lol
I think it’s important to point out these graffiti may not have been made by refugees or even Ukrainians. Someone suggested the sentence structure was all wrong (though since it’s twitter they did not provide any proof so take that as you will lol)
I’d like to get a ukrainian speaker here if possible to analyse the graffiti ourselves 🤞 somehow it wouldn’t surprise me if this was made by a local group.
I agree, we are in CRITICAL need of Ukrainians in communities like these. I understand people want to demystify a lot of stuff about this war, but honestly, these posts just make shit a whole lot worse.
This shit feels EXACTLY like a white supremacist pointing to the San Bernardino attacks and saying “look at all these so-called refugees committing attacks!!!”
Seriously people, use your fucking heads. Let’s not be the opposite end of the coin and ascribe an entire ethnic group with a certain ideology. It is exactly what fascists and Nazis themselves love to do.
Ukrainians are human beings too. They are not all Nazis. Goddamn.
It goes without saying that not all Ukrainians are nazis, the eastern half of the country especially ( who have been under attack from the western pro-nazi government for years ), and even in the western half the support for the current regime isn’t that high, a coup was needed to install it and oust Yanukovich.
But there’s no need to clarify #notallukrainians on every single statement, especially in the context of a war.
even in the western half the support for the current regime isn’t that high
Which actually just makes the original point stronger. My understanding is that the openly fascist parties, like Pravy Sektor, Svoboda, and the political wing of Azov, lost pretty big in the last election. But despite their low representation in parliament, these parties have a lot of members in high-ranking government and military positions – which tells you that, ultimately, democracy in Ukraine is a farce, and that the neo-nazis are firmly in control.
Heck, Zelenskyyyyyyyyyyy himself came in as sort of a moderate, wanting to improve relations with Russia. Right away, there was rumbling from the military and the right-wing parties about overthrowing him, in a “second Maidan.” In no way is the guy really in charge of his country.
I was not doing it on every single statement. I did it on this one and this one alone, because it was THIS post in particular that really rubbed me the wrong way.
I’m certain that lemmy is being intentionally gamed as a propaganda tool aimed at the left by professional government sources the world over.
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I mean it’s not like accusing immigrants and refugees of heinous shit is not what german neonazis are known for doing. Remember the rapes and knife attacks from few years ago? I wouldn’t be very surprised if they did it and blamed Ukrainians.
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‘someone’ is a ukranian nazi who spammed the comments and has “AB” in their name, I wonder what it could possibly stand for
This is just life now. Nazi groups that arrive alongside regular Ukrainians are just going to terrorize wherever they end up. And the Western MSM will be silent about it.
“how could this happen!? Weren’t Putinians the naziiiis???”
I guess goldfish memory westerners are in need of another reminder about just how batshit and dangerous actual Nazis are, and not just towards only communist as they would sometimes like to wishfully believe.
The article never says Ukrainian refugees are responsible for this. This could be local scum trying to lay blame on the war refugees. Honestly, If you were a war refugee would you go and do something like this in your flags colors? Sort of on the nose if you ask me.
You are severely underestimating how many of these types are in Ukraine:
Nazism is only illegal in Germany, not Ukraine. In fact, only one of those countries government’s has been on a spree of erecting monuments to nazi collaborators. The current ukrainian regime is opely pro-bandera.
It could be just europeans being racist shits
Karma
My abusive ableist family are warlord elites who use fake refugee claim to gain free citizenship in Canada so I could believe this. If their response is similar to the Hong Kong fake refugees who stage the 1989 false flag terrorism against Chinese citizens, then the local Western community will do anything to hide the criminal acts of the Ukrainian fake refugees no matter how outrageous they are or make excuse for the crimes if they can’t hide the crimes. The Liberal community will never oppose the crimes of the fake refugees because the opposition will force them to admit that the fake refugees never fled from repression.
Even though I could see this and want to very much believe it, I’m going to need more than a tweet, sorry
thank you very much, damn, some nazis got away with the other refugees.
aren’t they supposed to be dying for their country, in their country?
as the war started, i heard that zelensky decreed that all able males are forbidden to leave ukraine. so why are these nazi fuckers crawling around in germany? perhaps they could be arrested for desertion?
There are so many Ukrainian men who got out somehow. The current Ukrainian state has made clear that any man returning will have to explain themselves and show proof of how they were allowed to leave the country and not enlist. That assumes of course that the current Ukrainian state will still exist in a few months.
Women can be nazis too, and dumb teens. But IDK.
