I think it’s important to point out these graffiti may not have been made by refugees or even Ukrainians. Someone suggested the sentence structure was all wrong (though since it’s twitter they did not provide any proof so take that as you will lol)
I’d like to get a ukrainian speaker here if possible to analyse the graffiti ourselves 🤞 somehow it wouldn’t surprise me if this was made by a local group.
I agree, we are in CRITICAL need of Ukrainians in communities like these. I understand people want to demystify a lot of stuff about this war, but honestly, these posts just make shit a whole lot worse.
This shit feels EXACTLY like a white supremacist pointing to the San Bernardino attacks and saying “look at all these so-called refugees committing attacks!!!”
Seriously people, use your fucking heads. Let’s not be the opposite end of the coin and ascribe an entire ethnic group with a certain ideology. It is exactly what fascists and Nazis themselves love to do.
Ukrainians are human beings too. They are not all Nazis. Goddamn.
It goes without saying that not all Ukrainians are nazis, the eastern half of the country especially ( who have been under attack from the western pro-nazi government for years ), and even in the western half the support for the current regime isn’t that high, a coup was needed to install it and oust Yanukovich.
But there’s no need to clarify #notallukrainians on every single statement, especially in the context of a war.
even in the western half the support for the current regime isn’t that high
Which actually just makes the original point stronger. My understanding is that the openly fascist parties, like Pravy Sektor, Svoboda, and the political wing of Azov, lost pretty big in the last election. But despite their low representation in parliament, these parties have a lot of members in high-ranking government and military positions – which tells you that, ultimately, democracy in Ukraine is a farce, and that the neo-nazis are firmly in control.
Heck, Zelenskyyyyyyyyyyy himself came in as sort of a moderate, wanting to improve relations with Russia. Right away, there was rumbling from the military and the right-wing parties about overthrowing him, in a “second Maidan.” In no way is the guy really in charge of his country.
I was not doing it on every single statement. I did it on this one and this one alone, because it was THIS post in particular that really rubbed me the wrong way.
I mean it’s not like accusing immigrants and refugees of heinous shit is not what german neonazis are known for doing. Remember the rapes and knife attacks from few years ago? I wouldn’t be very surprised if they did it and blamed Ukrainians.
I think it’s important to point out these graffiti may not have been made by refugees or even Ukrainians. Someone suggested the sentence structure was all wrong (though since it’s twitter they did not provide any proof so take that as you will lol)
I’d like to get a ukrainian speaker here if possible to analyse the graffiti ourselves 🤞 somehow it wouldn’t surprise me if this was made by a local group.
I agree, we are in CRITICAL need of Ukrainians in communities like these. I understand people want to demystify a lot of stuff about this war, but honestly, these posts just make shit a whole lot worse.
This shit feels EXACTLY like a white supremacist pointing to the San Bernardino attacks and saying “look at all these so-called refugees committing attacks!!!”
Seriously people, use your fucking heads. Let’s not be the opposite end of the coin and ascribe an entire ethnic group with a certain ideology. It is exactly what fascists and Nazis themselves love to do.
Ukrainians are human beings too. They are not all Nazis. Goddamn.
It goes without saying that not all Ukrainians are nazis, the eastern half of the country especially ( who have been under attack from the western pro-nazi government for years ), and even in the western half the support for the current regime isn’t that high, a coup was needed to install it and oust Yanukovich.
But there’s no need to clarify #notallukrainians on every single statement, especially in the context of a war.
Which actually just makes the original point stronger. My understanding is that the openly fascist parties, like Pravy Sektor, Svoboda, and the political wing of Azov, lost pretty big in the last election. But despite their low representation in parliament, these parties have a lot of members in high-ranking government and military positions – which tells you that, ultimately, democracy in Ukraine is a farce, and that the neo-nazis are firmly in control.
Heck, Zelenskyyyyyyyyyyy himself came in as sort of a moderate, wanting to improve relations with Russia. Right away, there was rumbling from the military and the right-wing parties about overthrowing him, in a “second Maidan.” In no way is the guy really in charge of his country.
I was not doing it on every single statement. I did it on this one and this one alone, because it was THIS post in particular that really rubbed me the wrong way.
I’m certain that lemmy is being intentionally gamed as a propaganda tool aimed at the left by professional government sources the world over.
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I mean it’s not like accusing immigrants and refugees of heinous shit is not what german neonazis are known for doing. Remember the rapes and knife attacks from few years ago? I wouldn’t be very surprised if they did it and blamed Ukrainians.
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‘someone’ is a ukranian nazi who spammed the comments and has “AB” in their name, I wonder what it could possibly stand for