Yeah, but he isn’t a true republican! He was an Antifa double agent from the Queer Terrorist camps in woke San Francisco!
(This was a joke. Please don’t quote this shit)
Wait until google’s AI quotes you on this shit
Fuck.
“Fuck.” – rustyfish – Google Gemini
You can’t buy that sort of immortality!
Reuters and others are all like “despite being registered republican, HE DONATED TO ACT BLUE WHEN HE WAS A CHILD. THATS 15 DOLLARS OK, SO…THE IMPLICATIONS.”
To clarify, someone named “Thomas Crooks” from ZIP 15102 donated $15 to ActBlue in January 2021 (when the shooter would have been 17 years old).
So there’s a chance that this isn’t the same guy, because without a middle name or additional identifiers, there are plenty of other people with this name whom this could be.
There’s also a chance that this was him and his political views have changed in the past 3 years since donating to ActBlue. 17-20 is definitely the age where people break free from their parents’ political ideals. It’s also when severe mental illnesses can manifest.
Regardless, he registered as Republican and voted in elections after this donation was made, and his voter registration occurred nearly three full years before the assassination attempt, so it’s not like he changed his voter registration last minute in an attempt to troll. He’s been registered as a Republican since Biden’s first year in office, and donating the equivalent of 30 minutes of minimum wage labor to the DNC three years ago isn’t really indicative of anything.
donated $15 to ActBlue in January 2021
donating the equivalent of 30 minutes of minimum wage labor
Imagine if the minimum wage was $30/hr
Just a reminder, minimum wage in Pennsylvania is still $7.25.
I assume OP made a mental math reciprocal error 😄
w*t(2/1) vs w*t(1/2)
I just took a peek at the bad place most of us migrated from, and let me tell you they are REALLY convinced that this 15$ donation (if it was even him) is the most significant thing about this person.
Quoted and reported to the news as coming from a reputable anonymous source … you are reputable right?
“Many people are saying it.”
“Social Media Users say…”
Can’t be less reputable than the average republican politician
Queer Terrorist Camps would be an excellent name for a gay bar in the Castro
Some social media accounts said that a gunman with ties to the “deep state” had opened fire and shot Mr. Trump. Without citing evidence, the accounts also blamed government agencies such as the F.B.I. and the Centers for Disease Control for targeting Mr. Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/us/politics/trump-rally-disinformation-x-social-media.html
Ah yes, the CDC, well known for it’s highly trained hit squads. I can’t even with these chuckleheads anymore. It would just be hilarious if they weren’t poised to wreck the country for at least most of the duration of my likely natural life.
That alone is so telling to me:
One: it’s obviously projection as it always is. Which means we can expect previously mundane regulatory agencies beefed up in ways that make no sense with regards to enforcing what’s in their purview, in order to carry out dirty tasks like this. This is a self-report. They’re telling us exactly what they want to do with our federal agencies.
Two: it’s just more indication of how easy it is going to be for the Republicans to “dismantle the administrative state” (literally their own words). If this is how their base thinks regulatory agencies operate, then it’s going to be real fucking easy to convince any who aren’t already onboard to get rid of them entirely.
When they consider homosexuality to be a disease…
Thanks for taking it a level deeper than my general snark towards R. You are spot on.
Oh, he was a registered Republican? Mentally ill lone wolf is back on the menu, boys!
It doesn’t seem like it ever left the menu. This menu sucks ass.
We should make a bingo board of all the conspiracies.
Add false flag antifa agent to the card
[C6] It was a storm trooper.
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With Donald Trump dead, the replacement candidate would win without effort. The same is true if someone targeted Biden.
They’re both so bad that their deaths would boost their own parties.
Honestly, I completely disagree.
If Biden came out, Kamala would likely be in. No one really likes Kamala, she’s just a resounding meh. And plenty of people are just plain racist.
If Trump came out, I’m not sure who would replace him, but nobody would have such a death grip on his base like he does. Many of them probably wouldn’t even vote.
came out
Like, as gay?
Came out of the race
Not only that, more than most of Bidens campaign message is just warnings about Trump. If Trumps not the candidate Biden will have wasted billions and a lot of time on political messaging that doesn’t matter anymore.
That’s not really true. Mostly it’s him struggling to describe all the ways that he’s been one of the better progressive presidents despite having a completely non functional congress and outright hostile court. The only message that sticks is how awful Trump is because it’s easy to say and understand, and is obviously true to some and obviously false to others.
Well that and he has been hostile to progressive platforms is whole time in office. So no wonder he’s not bringing attention to how progressive he has been.
So this makes it I’d say 50/50 IMO that either the motive was a personal grudge against some misfortune he blames Trump specifically for a la the assassination of Shinzo Abe, or that he was a gun nut who didn’t want to surrender his Common Law AR-15 nor his Common Law stash of cocaine laced LSD at a security checkpoint, and went up on the roof to watch the show until he finished off the entire stash in one go and the demons told him that there was someone charging his position through the stage or something.
I’m almost more inclined to believe the second one because the first shot that actually caused the ear bleeding is now rumored to not have actually hit Trump but instead the Teleprompter which sprayed glass Shrapnel at the felon in chief which is what actually cut his ear.
This would imply that the first shot which he’d have the most opportunity to laze the shot for was not actually aimed directly at Trump as much as in the same direction as he happened to be in relative to the shooter. Unless the teleprompter was a lot closer to Trump at this particular rally than they usually are to the stage during most rallies on either side of the aisle.
My favorite conspiracy theory is that the shooter wasn’t trying to get Trump at all. They were trying to kill a member of the secret service and got Trump instead.
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Suppose I’ll vote on the grudge.
He was registered Republican, young, and so likely part of Republican family. He felt like giving to Democrats in 2021 (odd year for a political donation). So I’m imagining a close family member who was all in on Trump and anti mask and anti vaccine dying from COVID-19. In the short term he tossed a little money at Democrats as some sort of small token retribution.
As to why he’d miss, he’s likely barely got experience and hitting a target from a distance is hard.
Could also be a self appointed (or not) agent provocateur, who thought that a near miss would make trump a hero and his supporters even more fired up (in reality they didn’t need a push - the cult members already twist anything he does or is done to him to make him a hero), and martyred himself for “the cause” (E: or believed whoever hired him that he would be spared). I really wouldn’t put that past the average trump supporter.
Or he was a democrat who registered republican so that he could try to vote someone else in the primary.
This is a real thing that people do.
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I don’t think what Wraithgear is suggesting is so far out of the realm of possibility that it deserved the ‘genius theory’ derision.
Yes I have a friend who lives in Pennsylvania who registered as a republican for exactly this reason, no competitive dem primary this year so they figured they would vote against Trump. They’re a closed primary state. I wouldn’t jump to conclusions about anything yet.
Because i was going to do that if it wasn’t super important to make sure that Joe Biden did not get the Democratic nomination, that’s why. And for your info, if he has successfully assassinated trump, i would have thought of him as a national hero
“Cocaine-laced LSD” brother at least come up with plausible drug-lacing combinations, you really sound like you have no idea what drugs are or do.
You do realize that “drug bad all bad everyone who drug bad unga bunga” was one of the methods they used to get us to where we are today right?
It was a joke
I’m positive it was meant as hyperbole.
Lots of Nazis tried to kill Hitler.
And what did Hitler do? Blame the Jews.
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I have never accepted the whole concept of how our personalities are written in the stars, but as a Scorpio, I’m naturally skeptical.
LOL
Technical question: I don’t get what that registration is. Was he a member of the party?
Is it just the registration to be eligble to vote and if yes, how the fluff does it contain info on the party? Doesn’t the US have secrecy of the ballot?
In most states, only party members can vote in their party’s primary elections.
Primary elections are held before the general election to pick the party’s candidates for the general.
In most states, only party members can vote in their party’s primary elections.
Minor point of clarification:
Pennsylvania is one of only 14 states with closed primaries
That’s kind of true, but it depends. Most states don’t have laws requiring closed primaries and allows the party to choose which voters to include. However, in general the Republican party tends to have closed primaries when possible.
They are closed in Pennsylvania, though.
https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/state-primary-election-types
Maybe he wanted to vote against Trump several times: both in the primary and main
If I remember right, Haley was already out of the PA primary.
I don’t know, it’s just an urge to interfere with the US politics in any way
I haven’t seen this mentioned yet, but you’re required to register a party affiliation before you can vote in the primaries. As a liberal, I’ve considered registering Republican in situations where the Democratic nominee has pretty much been decided and I want to give a boost to less polarizing Republican candidates. Pennsylvania is one such state that uses the closed party system (you need to be Republican to vote in Republican primaries). I’ve since moved to a state that allows “Independent party” members to choose the primary they wish to vote in.
Not saying this explains the shooter’s party affiliation, we still need to wait on all the details. Just something to keep in mind so we don’t jump to conclusions.
That varies state to state. Some states (like Texas) have open primaries where you just choose at the voting station which ballot you want. Others (like Pennsylvania) have closed primaries where you have to be registered as a member of the party to vote in the primary.
The USA doesn’t really have party members in the sense you’re thinking. It’s not a club that you either belong to or don’t. Being a “party member” can have different meanings depending on context.
Political parties exist at both the state level and the national level, and the state parties mostly operate independently of the national parties. Each U.S. state has different rules governing political parties and how they work, and each state party has its own rules for how it administers itself.
You only need to care about that stuff if you want to be a party official or a candidate for political office. As an ordinary voter, all you really need to care about is whether your state has party registration or not, and to register with the party you intend to vote for, as many states only allow you to participate in the primary election for the party in which you are registered to vote for.
As for ballot secrecy, yes, how you actually vote is private information, but how you registered to vote, and what elections you voted in, are public information.
Thanks alot.
This is a confusing/interesting way of ballot secrecy. Basically it sounds like: You have to make a public statement for one political party, but you are allowed to lie. Thus it’s secret
The idea behind party registration is that it prevents people from trying to spoil another party’s primary.
If you’re allowed to vote in both, you could vote for the candidate you think is best for your party, and the candidate you think is worst for the other party.
Requiring party registration allows the primary election for each to be gatekept.
You’re not obligated to vote for the party that you’re registered to on election day, and voting across the aisle doesn’t really count as “lying”, though there are some people who do register for the party they oppose for weird reasons.
My state (WA) used to require party registration, but now they just use a combined primary ballot, and if you vote on both sides of it they shred it. They eliminated party registration because formerly registered independents couldn’t vote in either primary, and that generally wasn’t great since independents still have to operate inside of a largely obligate two party system.
When the general election comes around, your ballot is still secret. So you can publicly declare a registration for the Republican party, but then vote secretly for the Democratic candidate. (Or vice versa)
In the UK, if you want to have some effect on which candidates are selected by a party, you usually have to join the party and go to meetings and stuff. In the US, parties mostly use public primary elections to select candidates, and the primary elections are run by the same government bodies that run the general election. That’s why the voter registration cares about the party.
In some States like mine, you become a party member by voting in the primary. There’s no form or anything. You ask for an R or D ballet and now you’re registered as that party until the next primary. There were a lot of D’s that were voting on the R primary to try and keep Trump out a few cycles ago.
Party affiliation is not official, you’re a member of the party but that’s just a private organization.
It’s like being a member of any other organization, membership required to take part in voting.
Primary voting (selecting the candidate of the party ) is held by the parties and not by the state
You generally need to register with a party to participate in party primaries.
Some states allow you to do it day of, some require large lead times.
Posted this elsewhere but will join into the discussion under this meme as well:
So, this is 100% speculative rambling at this point, but as a gut feeling on my part that can be proven wrong: I get the feeling it might have been someone from a Republican family, possibly shitty family psychology-wise, registered as Republican for his families sake but got f’d up by the pressure within his personal relationships and the state of the world, who radicalised himself on the internet.
I’ll offer “hard core maga family, and a close loved one died from COVID-19 and he blames Trump”
Does anyone know if these chuds typically tell each other to donate once to a seemingly counter political cause, through a public record digital trail, so that it adds deniability and confusion if/when they go forward with the suicide mission?
Like these folks need the excuse, but I can see that easily being a tactic.
Fascinating https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SexmfU6b1ik
He has always denounced crooks
