Kind of amazing how many instances are blocking lemmygrad as soon as they’re created. I know that liberals really don’t like dissenting opinions but goddamn
We don’t block anyone except instances that are purposely built to troll, or from which we’ve had trolls before (sometimes they’re left unmoderated) – but the latter we unblock if they contact us and took care of the spam
Communists stay on top 😎
Libs in shambles
The ‘fediverse’ and all this talk of decentralization being great for leftist organization completely falls apart when the aspects most benefitted by decentralization is immediately delisted/blocked by libshits.
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Hey, if it pays the bills.
The way I see it, this isn’t really a step backwards. On the centralized platforms, our communities get banned and their ashes get scattered to the winds. On the fediverse, we get blacklisted by large instances operated by liberals, but our communities remain intact and can still network with one another directly. We are also protected from ideologically hostile admins quietly picking off our comrades one by one.
fr :( i like the fediverse but libs ruin it
Libs ruin everything. lol. They have plagued every good leftist sub to ever exist. They pile in because the memes are funny but then they start screeching about “gommunism no food 10 trillion dead.” Eventually pushing out all the leftists that made the sub shine and turning it into an unfunny cesspit of liberal brain rot. Causing them to search out the next sub with good memes and content. Repeating the cycle endlessly. They are parasites. Nothing less.
Isn’t communism a left wing ideology?
Yes, why do you ask?
Sorry I misread your comment and thought you were claiming the opposite. Carry on!
It wasn’t me you replied to, but it happens sometimes, haha.
I try to be positive. Even the libs on Lemmy are still better than the average redditor.
No, it looks like Fedi.tips is driving people away from the software Lemmy, because they have ethical issues about not censoring Lemmygrad’s userbase and the devs’ ideology.
As it says on the homepage sidebar, lemmy.ml isn’t a flagship instance, and I’d expect better from an account calling itself Fedi.tips. They’ve just thrown Beehaw and sopuli.xyz and all the others in the same bucket.
True.
the lemmy team was right to tell that person to go pound sand back then, and they would be right to do it again.
That “nothing has changed” is wrong. Lemmy.ml, which is the instance the person was referring to back in 2021, is not positioned as the flagship or official instance, just a FOSS enthusiast and generalist instance.
By the nature of federation you can’t control what instances people will make. You can’t prevent anyone from using Lemmy to host their own website, not even the devs can. Best you can do is not federate with the instance you don’t like.
I remember dessalines saying back then that people on mastodon just like to complain and these things never go anywhere, and he’s right, they don’t. Lemmy is still strong 2 years later and nothing about the software itself is problematic like this person wants to claim. I mean, I hate the notepad++ dev’s state dept opinions on foreign affairs, but I still use the software lol
That original thread incredibly manages to be so irritating lol, it’s so self-righteous and self-flagellating.
If you look at Mastodon and Mastodon adjacent services, the mainstream is full of self-righteous imperialist liberals but despite that there is still a healthy section of genuine anti-imperialist instances which thrive and provide safe spaces even though there is some degree of ostracisation. So that tweet is not surprising at all. I am more surprised to see westerners not having brainrotten takes.
Do you know are there any ML friendly Mastadon Instances?
toots.matapacos.dog is run by @PorkrollPosadist@lemmy.ml from hexbear and is accomodating towards MLs.
It also has about 1500 of the Hexbear emotes, but I have given up on categorizing them.
Oh no the existence of communists having an instance is keeping people away from the project, why am I not suprised
So many sissies crying about tankies there 🤣
I’m not overly upset. Such people are the ones who make most of the rest of the internet unusable and are the reason that I don’t use most of the rest of the internet. It is a shame that some will be put off based on rumours. But we’ve got to expect that; it’s the propaganda machine in action.
God this thread pissed me off, I used to have to block so many of these shit head liberals when I was on Mastodon. Love uncritically accepting statements from “politically neutral human rights groups” such as fuckin uhhhh Amnesty International
Yeah, won’t be able to reach those types online, hence why real world praxis is necessary too.
Too true
shakes fist BEEHAW … and other instences in your vain that are painfully liberal, but they all feel almost exactly the same so ill just call them all part of the beehaw colony
Lol well beehaw is completely down right now, just completely flat on the ground dead, nothing is loading.
I know I’m beating a dead horse but I find it funny that beehaw claims they want to “help to connect underprivileged and minority individuals with education and civic participation by promoting a healthier online experience.”. Meanwhile all marginalised minorities flock to communism and lemmygrad and their admin team is white person, white person, and white person.
How exactly are they doing any of that, all i see from them are meaningless plattitudes and a heavily locked down instance, from what I can gather users cannot even create their own communities on that instance.
Well there are different degrees of how left you are, liking the CCP and the DPRK is too much for most, even communists
If liking communism is too much for communists then they might not be communists…
Everyone has limits, for some it’s concentration camps. It’s not something tribal where you have to support someone because they call themself communists. You can agree in principle but not in execution
I think the general consensus on this instance is that the actual execution isn’t the attrocity horror show that so many make it out to be: that capitalist dominance of media and education has either ridiculously distorted or outright fabricated many of the atrocities attributed to AES. This doesn’t mean people here like/support AES uncritically or unconditionally. However, the criticisms that will be levied against states/orgs here are going to be quite different from those of the more “libertarian” left.
I guess we disagree on that, I see no reason to make out some communist countries as hellholes (DPRK) while others like Cuba get a free pass. Other than that I consider DPRK leadership as more of a personal cult disguised with a communist state, and why communists would be compelled to defend that kind of stratification of society is beyond me
Where is your evidence of concentration camps, the ones in Xinjiang have been long sense debunked
I’m mostly talking about the ones in DPRK. The claimed Chinese ones are more like culture erasure camps, I don’t know how you guys feel about those
Why bring concentration camps in this conversation?
It was relevant to the conversation? Or is it something that’s denied by people on here that they exist?
Between 75 and 90% of our users are a minority in some way: either in gender or sexual identity, skin colour or religion.
They have no problem liking the DPRK and CPC.
Beehaw isn’t even on the left, I’m not sure what you think communists are. They’re the well-intentioned liberals MLK was talking about.
I would be really interested if those are actual numbers. It seems like a bit too high, but shame there is basically no way to know for sure without some privacy issues.
We’ve never ran a website survey exactly for the privacy reason, but based on the active users on the site as well as account request answers, the very least amount of minorities on Lemmygrad is 50% of users. 75 seems more realistic though.
Anecdotally, it feels that way. It’s one of the great things about this place.
That makes it even more weird, given the DPRK’s stance on sexual identity and religion. Don’t know any branch of communism that is particularly fond of religion. I don’t come from beehaw, I don’t know what they’re about.
What stances against religion? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chondoist_Chongu_Party
What stances on sexual identity? https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_and_issues_in_AES_countries#Democratic_People’s_Republic_of_Korea
Don’t know any branch of communism that is particularly fond of religion
Liberation Theory and Islamic Socialism (of which we have a community here), and that doesn’t even go into the importance of religion in national liberation struggles.
Cuba is predominantly Catholic
"However, the situation for the party soon turned difficult. Large sections of the Soviet and North Korean communist leaderships did not trust the party, and saw it as a potential nest for counterrevolutionaries. The most troublesome issue was that the North Korean Ch’ŏndogyo continued to have contacts with the leadership of the religious group in South Korean Seoul. There, the Ch’ŏndogyo leadership was anti-communist and supported the administration of President Syngman Rhee. In January 1948, the Ch’ŏndogyo leadership based in Seoul made a decision that a massive anti-communist demonstration would be held on 1 March in Pyongyang. This put the Chondist Chongu Party in the North in a precarious situation. Kim Tarhyon refused to follow the orders from Seoul, but others in the party leadership wanted to go ahead with the plans. The result was a massive purge of party members throughout North Korea. In its aftermath, the anti-communist sections of the movement initiated an underground resistance movement and tried to launch guerrilla warfare.
Kim Tarhyon and the people around him reaffirmed their loyalty to the DPRK. In 1950 the Chondoist Chongu Party in the South (but not the religious movement) united with the Northern party under his leadership. During the Korean War the headquarters of the party was shifted to a town near the border with China. The party leadership actively supported the DPRK war efforts, but many party cadres migrated to South Korea during the war. Many sided with Seoul during the war. In the aftermath of the war, the idea of the united front was increasingly unpopular in the North Korean government circles and many wanted the non-communist parties banned. In the end the united front was maintained, but the possibility for the Chondoist Chongu Party to conduct political activity was severely curtailed.
In 1954 the government subsidies to the party were cancelled. By 1956 there were approximately 1,700–3,000 members left (out of 10,000–50,000 remaining Ch’ŏndogyo believers). At the same time about 200 persons were full-time employees of the party. In order to finance the party, it ran an iron foundry and a printing house."
Pretty funny from your link
Wait does my fist shaking have powers?
Beehaw is back up, my dissapointment is immesurable, my day is ruined
You’ve got to shake it in the Juche symbol or it doesn’t work.
yeah… I just wish they could block us from commenting on their instance without keeping their users from seeing our comments on like lemmy
so I left a comment on this because of one of our patented Lemmygrad Bugs™ but I don’t have anything to say so I’ll just say Death to Amerikkka and leave
I just had a bug that made a post have 299 upvotes instead of 3
yeah i was wondering what the meaning of that comment was lmao
It doesn’t matter. The more people who use Lemmy, the more people will inevitably find Lemmygrad posts
it’s more so just annoying having to check people’s handles to make sure I’m not wasting time writing a reply out that they won’t even see
Especially too when they have usernames that obscure the handle, and or it goes to an instance i have not heard of yet
This, when I first entered Lemmy just as an FOSS alternative to reddit, I also thought that those Lemmygrad people are taking things too far. Now I consider myself ML and really enjoy the community here.
Pretty much, like reddit its time to softly agripop lib-hell by a little exposure is what its sounding like to me. Not as good as RL of course, but if you’re out shitposting anyhow why not.
Another thought, should I just make a lemmy.ml account?
Last time I checked lemmy.ml is quite getting full of libs and such, but it has more diverse communities than Lemmygrad so your choice
If I do I’ll probably just try and use both
I can see your post from here so you’re not being too heavily blocked. Some people maybe just have a kneejerk reaction to communist imagery/mentality (maybe bad experiences in various countries’ history, etc)
you can see me because lemmy doesnt have lemmygrad blocked, the 2 recommended general instances have lemmygrad blocked, and when browsing thru lemmy I see posts from people in other instances and like half of them already have lemmygrad blocked despite being pretty new
Which recommended general instances have lemmygrad blocked?
I meant on https://join-lemmy.org/instances, the 2 under recommended are sopuli.xyz and beehaw.org, both have lemmygrad blocked (beehaw doesnt even have the nazis blocked yet last I checked lmao)
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it’s just so weird they all claim we brigade but I go browse thru lemmy threads and we’re almost never in there
It’s a load of lies. We (= Lemmygradians) used to be more active on Lemmy, but to call that brigading is a stretch. This is federation, if you don’t want people to participate on other instances then you’re in the wrong place.
Beehaw originally claimed they blocked us because WE filled up their hard drive because we were so active and they had to rehost our comments and uploaded media. And then they realised they left the log files from the installation (which was also a bug, to be fair). Whoops.
They just don’t want to be exposed to communists. Beehaw claims to be a “chill” instance where like everyone is respectful and nice to each other but ask anyone here who interacted with a Beehaw user and “respectful” is not an adjective they will use. They like to post anti-communist memes, which I wouldn’t call chill and respectful. Beehaw is rabidly anti-communist, they will ban you for creating an account on their instance if you have an account on lemmygrad, even if you follow their rules and everything.
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Yeah it’s made by the “privacy” advocates on PrivacyGuides, in one of the posts there they outright deny Apple spying because “even the CIA cannot break into iPhones, so why would we trust the FSB”, it’s a charade.
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Do it, then you can look at labor aristocracy in action.
Do you mean to tell me there be ghosts on Lemmy? Users commenting, who I can’t see?
We are more often the tankies in the walls the liberals cannot see though comrade
listen maybe I’ve ruined my own mental health enough arguing with the worst of them on reddit alright lol
