Just a fun question I thought of.
My own and I won’t stop until it happened
Now that’s the spirit
Was going to say the same thing, revolutionaries don’t run
Well … I prefer Cuba because they speak the same language as me ( both dialects of the Spanish are very similar ) we share a big history with them and I always wanted to be part of the Partido Comunista de Cuba .
We in my country call Cuba ‘Hermana Mayor’ ( Big Sister ) and us ‘Hermana menor’ ( Little Sister ). We have a lot of things in common and we share the same culture, traditions , folklore, gastronomy, music and dances and more.
As my people say in the island : ‘ A Cuba hay que seguir ’ ( Cuba must be followed ).
DPRK.
I hate to sound like a fetishist or even as if I’m approaching that point. I am very much a white Amerikan guy, family tree of settlers all the way down.
That being said, I feel a deep perhaps inexplicable kinship with Korean revolutionaries. I have never felt so inspired as I was when I first learned about the history of Korea and their unceasing struggles for liberation and resistance.
Reading Kim Il-sung has been more elucidating than literally any other Marxist author or orator. The man was a genius with a steeled brain and warm heart. Nothing has both pulled my heartstrings and sent my synapses firing on all cylinders than beginning to understand the Juche idea.
The cold would not bother me. Any destitution would not bother me. I would be contributing to the construction of one of the strongest and greatest socialist projects on the face of the earth.
Forgive any cringe. My heart, my life for Korean independence and the Korean people. 만세!
I’m in a similar boat. I have nothing but respect for the people of the DPRK. I think living there or China would be amazing. That being said I think I’d be too ashamed to try and live in NK. Like I know I wasn’t even born when the US massacred them and have nothing to do with how our country continues to fuck them over, but I just can’t get over it. Like every day I’d feel like I should just apologize to someone. That and idk how I could even contribute to their society. There’s nothing I feel I could do that someone in their country couldn’t do just as well or better. I honestly feels that way I couldn’t go to China either. I just have nothing that makes me stand out to be truly worth it other than just wanting to live and work peaceful.
You young? I’m mid-20s. When I was a teen, I thought I wouldn’t live to see these years. My birthday is tomorrow. I’m a cashier. I feel very similarly about lack of overall usefulness… but I’m convincing myself that I can become useful. Somewhen somehow somewhere. Eventually.
We have time. Apocalypse is around the bend, but we’ve got time. We have to have time - convincing ourselves we don’t is a surefire way to wind up doing absolutely nothing with the time we do have and then wondering where it all went when it finally runs out. Time is not a privilege or luxury for everyone.
I’m on the brink of homelessness, but I’ve got time. I will do something with this lifetime in service to the international socialist project. Somewhere somewhen somehow, yeah?
I am not so young anymore. Mid 30s. Things starting to ache. Not sure I can stomach going back to school. Mind isn’t as sharp as it used to be anyway. Learning and focusing on learning is harder. I’ve had too many years of stress and sleep troubles. I know I’m not THAT old but I FEEL so much older. So much time I wasted. I wish I had learned about the truth of communism a decade ago. Back when I had more time to set myself on a better course. Plan things out better. Right now I’m just focusing on keeping my head above water and hope some better opportunity presents itself I just don’t know what else to do.
Comrade I am 30 let’s go back to school
I’ve read some of Kim il-Sung’s works too, he really did have a good heart. It’s such a shame that western media makes him and his family appear to be insane monsters.
Alternate timeline USSR where it never fell down the revisionist slope and collapsed
In such a reality I would be your neighbor. My family only moved due to the collapse and utter horrific living conditions that befell Belarus. With their economy tied directly to supplying material to Ukraine and Russia, without the Union they were in utter economic freefall.
if i had a time machine i would just go back to 1983 and give Andropov my kidney
I really, really, really wish I could just live in the PRC, but alas, I feel like it would remain a pipe dream; because I don’t really imagine I’d be able to, or even be allowed to stay; given that I feel like most CompSci jobs in the PRC have already been taken by others.
Even if not, I don’t imagine I’d be lucky enough to have a job in the PRC to just fall on me; even after many attempts. Even if I do get a job, there’s no guarantee I’d be able to be a Permanent Resident there.
It’s surprisingly easy to get a teaching job in the PRC and stay for an extended period of time. And I’ve seen several job postings for CS teachers that are waiting to be filled (WeChat is extremely handy for a job search). From what I understand the pay and work hours are much better for teachers than they would be at a tech company.
Permanent residence is another matter. The good news is that it is becoming easier to get in some municipalities (basically Shanghai). We’ll see how long it takes to expand to the rest of the country.
Really? I wonder if there’ll still be a seat/position left for me by the time I go to the PRC. I think I’ll give WeChat a spin sometime.
Still deciding if I should go to the PRC for my Masters or for my PHD, since my main goal is to find another country to start a new life in, to come out of the closet without worrying about mobs or lgbtphobic family members. Don’t wanna risk it and wind up having to come back…
You can always dip your toes in one of the local universities in a large city to see if you like the general vibe of the place.
Anyway, every hiring season I see more and more teaching positions for CS. So, I’m sure there will be plenty in the near future.
I definitely wish you all the best and feel free to shoot me a DM if you want a few Wechat contacts.
The better way is to finish PhD or MsC in your country, then go to China. Chinese schools are oriented toward Chinese people and their customs. But they value a high quality foreign experts. You can go there as a postdoc, even for 6 years, and if you like it, you can stay there at university or a company.
Thing is, I plan on leaving my country for somewhere better after I complete my BSc. I have two more years left. I have no intentions of doing MSc/PhD in my country.
OK, but I am not sure whether you can further study in China in English. Unless you know Mandarin very well.
Just as an example there are 32 Graduate level programs taught in English at Tsinghua, and as far as I am aware most universities of a certain stature have programs taught in English (of varying quality) and will also have classes to teach the Chinese language to international students.
There are also USA and UK universities that have partnered with Chinese universities that offer many programs taught in English, like Xi’an Jiaotong Liverpool University and New York University: Shanghai.
Thank you for the useful information
Tsinghua needs their students to be at least HSK 4-5 to be able to enroll though.
I don’t mind enrolling in Mandarin. I actually was studying Mandarin, for fun a while back. I stopped a while back, but I can resume that if need be. (I was learning through HelloChinese, but at some point it asks you to pay to continue… wouldn’t have been a problem if I had a Card or a Chinese Payment System or whatever they’re accepting, as I can afford it)
My current Mandarin skills are, I’d say HSK 0.1. So. Obviously not great, but that can be mended in time.
Very well, each small step is a small victory.
What do you think chances are of China granting asylum? That’s one of my ideas to get into China
I’m not familiar with the process at all, and after a cursory search it doesn’t look very promising. But if you are interested in refugee status in the PRC I’d suggest asking a lawyer or someone experienced in that sort of thing.
Anyway, best of luck to you. But the job route would probably be easier, if possible.
I’m disabled, and I don’t have many options anyway. But thank you. I heard that China was now starting to turn away non-Chinese who wanted to teach English though.
Ah, OK. The refugee route may be problematic as from what I read, they want to send most people with non-Chinese ancestry to a third country eventually. Though, I don’t know how true that is.
Anyway, as for teaching jobs, there are many more than just English teaching positions and I’m still seeing lots of postings for non-Chinese available.
I’ll try not to get my hopes up, but would you want to keep in touch if I have further questions?
Sure, I’m always available for questions. Feel free to send me a DM in the near or distant future.
I like my country, Brazil. I am attached to my people and my culture, I prefer to live and die struggling for socialism here
BUT, since this is an exercise in fantasy, I would choose post WWII Soviet Union
Current: Cuba or China
Former: SFR Yugoslavia
Tito seems to been missed by Serbians even more than Russians, for instance, miss the USSR. The collapse of the Soviet Union was awful but as terrible as it was, it didn’t lead the country into one of the most brutal civil wars of the late 20th century.
In Bosnia he is even more missed, in Serbia and Croatia there has been rampant propaganda against him for decades but even still like 81% in Serbia miss him.
Cuba. Closest socialist nation and Spanish is easier to learn.
China is a close second, but I know the culture there is far different and I’d be afraid to try to assimilate. Maybe that’s just because I see how Americans treat foreigners, idk.
As Camarada Forte said, though. I’d prefer to stay in my home country (US) and live/die for socialism
I would go to Vietnam because I’ve personally been there before and really like it. Being from Florida I am also easily able to adapt to the tropical environment versus the DPRK which is colder.
Realistically Cuba, I speak a bit of Spanish(I would need to seriously brush up) it’s not far from the US so I can visit for holidays, and I love the weather. They do get tropical storms too tho so that may get scary at times. I also grew up playing Basketball and Baseball quite a bit and even took up Boxing at a young age, all of those are very popular in Cuba and I’d love to join pickup games or train some boxing at a local park or gym. Also Miguel Díaz Canel is pretty cool. I remember MSNBC tried to pretend like a rally for him was a protest against Cuba in the midst of Covid. Those idiots literally showed him in the rally.
I’m not gonna move out of USA while I can still contribute to the revolutionary struggle here, but my plan for my old age is to retire in Cuba.
Cuba, as much as I would like to say I would stay here until my nation becomes socialist, I feel it would be the last one in the world to become socialist.
future Cuba when Amerika has been decolonized
After Burgerland’s been dismantled, why would you want to move somewhere else? Much of this continent is beautiful, and it would be even better in that future.
if I was Amerikan, sure
Vietnam for sure. My dad and step-dad both committed atrocities there, and it would be nice to work for the Vietnamese people and do whatever I can to atone as much as possible.
Obviously what was done can never be undone, and I can’t expect nor don’t expect my family to be forgiven the crimes they committed. I guess I can say that it would be the most symbolic and meaningful way for me to indicate that it ends with me.
In terms of the bar to entry, Cuba would probably be easiest for me. I’m learning Spanish atm so I’d have a leg up when it comes to integrating with the locals. Besides, it’s a gorgeous island.
In terms of where I’d most like to try living though? Absolutely China. In terms of the scope of what there is to see and do, China probably can’t be beat. I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t fantasised about dropping everything to go study applied Marxism with the United front work department. If nothing else, I’d get to see exactly how the communist party of China carry out their work with my own eyes.
