Wait. They shut down nuclear? Im confused. Doesnt the green parties understand that a war is not the smart way to transition to a new energy? You gotta do a controlled transition; not shut everything off. The fuck?
That’s not even green! If you shut down nuclear and go back to fossil fuels, that’s worse!
Like, there’s some pretty spicy debates in environmental science on whether nuclear is better or worse than renewables (there are many arguments that it’s better, for example, solar panels and batteries require a ton of harmful reagents to manufacture, way more than the volume of nuclear waste being produced) and whether we should be building new reactors or investing in all renewables, or whether existing ones should be shut down once renewables have replaced everything else, but everyone agrees that it’s way better than fossil fuels and between nuclear and gas, nuclear is better.
Don’t worry about the science, Germans just know intuitively that nuclear is very dangerous! A lot of Germans still need to go to therapy to deal with their trauma over Chernobyl. They’re convinced that there’s other ways and that nuclear energy is a deal with the devil.
My father in law is extremely anti nuclear despite being ultra green policy. It’s mostly because of nuclear waste. I understand that but almost no transition can happen 100% perfectly. The man is well off enough to be able to isolate his house, not use gas, do alternative things, eat as eco friendly as possible etc. It’s just elitist nonsense and he and his so called intellect infuriate me to no end.
He even went as far as to say that ‘lower class working people’ just have another way of thinking and doing things than his ‘upper class’ leftist circles. Fucking wanker.
Polish not-so-grey eminence Jarosław Kaczyński, asked about the winter said we have to burn “everything except tires” which is even worse advice than it sounds because it is illegal, so technically he publicly incited to crime, which is a crime too.
Not only renewable, by legal decree burning wood in the EU is considered CO2 neutral. The best part is a lot of those wood pellets come from trees planted in the US specifically to process into pellets and sell in the European market, making the whole process equally as bad as (if not worse than) coal from a GHG standpoint. It originally started as a “what can we do with all this sawdust and unusable wood” problem, but subsidies and “green energy” policies quickly turned it into a cash cow.
I’m not sure about other countries energy mix, but somewhere around half of Germany’s very proudly ~50% “renewable electricity” is wood. The rest is primarily inconsistent solar and wind, meaning that the German grid is kept stable with Polish coal, Norwegian hydroelectric, and French nuclear.
There is few of them left, and PiS is rambling whatever they fried up neurons cook up in the moment, but in reality past 30 years was constant struggle from the miners side to prevent destruction of the industry by the government. It’s not coming back because no fucking way any polish government is gonna revive potential worker power of this size.
One of the comments said one had been shut down recently? Honestly I just thought it was funny, I don’t know all the details. Other than it’s not looking too good for Europe over the next 6 months ☠️
Wait. They shut down nuclear? Im confused. Doesnt the green parties understand that a war is not the smart way to transition to a new energy? You gotta do a controlled transition; not shut everything off. The fuck?
That’s not even green! If you shut down nuclear and go back to fossil fuels, that’s worse!
Like, there’s some pretty spicy debates in environmental science on whether nuclear is better or worse than renewables (there are many arguments that it’s better, for example, solar panels and batteries require a ton of harmful reagents to manufacture, way more than the volume of nuclear waste being produced) and whether we should be building new reactors or investing in all renewables, or whether existing ones should be shut down once renewables have replaced everything else, but everyone agrees that it’s way better than fossil fuels and between nuclear and gas, nuclear is better.
Don’t worry about the science, Germans just know intuitively that nuclear is very dangerous! A lot of Germans still need to go to therapy to deal with their trauma over Chernobyl. They’re convinced that there’s other ways and that nuclear energy is a deal with the devil.
My father in law is extremely anti nuclear despite being ultra green policy. It’s mostly because of nuclear waste. I understand that but almost no transition can happen 100% perfectly. The man is well off enough to be able to isolate his house, not use gas, do alternative things, eat as eco friendly as possible etc. It’s just elitist nonsense and he and his so called intellect infuriate me to no end.
He even went as far as to say that ‘lower class working people’ just have another way of thinking and doing things than his ‘upper class’ leftist circles. Fucking wanker.
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Germany mostly, and that was going for years. And then german green party went like that. Even politico calls them uber-hawks lmao.
Turns out, “green” means like in go back to monke and maybe even “soylent green”.
Ther name now refers to the color of the field uniforms of german soldiers. Hence their nickname “Olivegrüne”
Green Parties don’t understand shit except marketing and self enrichment.
Just like their spiritual successors in “the squad”.
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Well gas is considered “clean energy” as per EU regulations now. We can thank Germany and nuclear-is-anti-constitutional Austria for that.
They also classified wood burning as “renawable energy source”.
Polish not-so-grey eminence Jarosław Kaczyński, asked about the winter said we have to burn “everything except tires” which is even worse advice than it sounds because it is illegal, so technically he publicly incited to crime, which is a crime too.
Not only renewable, by legal decree burning wood in the EU is considered CO2 neutral. The best part is a lot of those wood pellets come from trees planted in the US specifically to process into pellets and sell in the European market, making the whole process equally as bad as (if not worse than) coal from a GHG standpoint. It originally started as a “what can we do with all this sawdust and unusable wood” problem, but subsidies and “green energy” policies quickly turned it into a cash cow.
I’m not sure about other countries energy mix, but somewhere around half of Germany’s very proudly ~50% “renewable electricity” is wood. The rest is primarily inconsistent solar and wind, meaning that the German grid is kept stable with Polish coal, Norwegian hydroelectric, and French nuclear.
Capitalism is so illogical.
Polish coal is also thing of the past. We import it all the time too.
Yes of course, I wasn’t super clear there. I meant electricity generated in Poland using coal.
Didn’t Polish government plan on becoming a coal exporter? I thought there were coal mines in Poland
There is few of them left, and PiS is rambling whatever they fried up neurons cook up in the moment, but in reality past 30 years was constant struggle from the miners side to prevent destruction of the industry by the government. It’s not coming back because no fucking way any polish government is gonna revive potential worker power of this size.
One of the comments said one had been shut down recently? Honestly I just thought it was funny, I don’t know all the details. Other than it’s not looking too good for Europe over the next 6 months ☠️
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